Jeffery family in Cardiff

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  1. Arwin

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    tracing request for the Jeffery family in Cardiff. Looking in to my great great grandfather Frank William John Jeffer(e)y, born Poplar London 1859, Master Mariner, living in Cardiff from 1901 until his dead in 1q of 1914.

    Spouse Eliza Ann Jeffery (nee Smith) born London 1859 and their children Emma G., Frank W., Thomas S.

    No trace in census 1911 of Frank sr. in Glanmorgan. Looking for his occupation, adress and other relevant information for further research. Many thanks in advance.
     
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    F W J Jeffery's death on 1st February 1914 his address is given as Cerne Abbas, Whitchurch Road, Cardiff
     
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    Emma G (Emma Gertrude) Jefferys although born in 1882 was only baptised as an adult on 14th March 1900 in St Andrew, Cardiff
    Father Frank William John
    Mother Eliza Ann

    They were living at 50, Woodville Road, Cathays, Cardiff
     
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    Frank William John Jeffery
    Baptism Date: 7 Oct 1859
    Baptism Place: St Magnus the Martyr, City of London, England
    Father: Gabriel Francis Jeffery
    Mother: Emma Jeffery
    Register Type: Parish Registers
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    1871
    St Mary Stratford Bow, London, Middlesex, England
    Gabriel Francis Jeffry Head M 36 Dorsetshire
    Emma Jeffry Wife F 38 Lambeth
    F Wm J Jeffry Son M 11 City Of London
    Thos B Jeffry Son M 9 City Of London
    Annie Hawkins Cousin F 27 Dorsetshire
    Citing this Record
    "England and Wales Census, 1871", database with images, FamilySearch
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    Several tickets for mariners
    Frank Wm John Jeffery
    Age: 16
    Birth Year: abt 1859
    Birth Place: London
    Registration or Indenture Date: 23 Jul 1875
    Port of Registry: Dundee
    plus 1881, 1887 ,1889 but today Ancestry won't let me view anything, & I can't keep coming back later on the hope that I'll be able to view.
    1901 doesn't show Frank with his family , haven't found him at all on later censuses
    1901 Cardiff.JPG

    Is anyone else having probs viewing ancestry images?
     
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    21.July 1875 Frank William John Jeffrey was indentured in Merchant Navy, bound to David Bruce S.O. Dundee for the term of 4 yrs. On Duntrune.
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    Marriages Sep 1881
    JEFFERY Frank William Poplar 1c-1118
    Smith Eliza Ann Poplar 1c-1118
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    1891 Garford st. W.Poplar
    Elizabeth Jeffrey -32 Bromley
    Florence M -11 -? Poplar
    Emma G. 9 Poplar
    Frank w -4 Poplar
    Thomas V.-2 Poplar
    RG12/334/53/page56
     
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    Looks like Florence May was born before their marriage

    Florence May Jeffery
    Baptism: 30th August 1899, Roath, Glamorganshire
    Father: Frank William John
    Mother: Eliza Ann

    SMITH, FLORENCE MAY
    Mothers maiden name -----
    GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 718
     
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    EMMA GERTRUDE JEFFERY
    Mothers Maiden Name: SMITH
    GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 764

    FRANK WILLIAM JOHN JEFFERY
    Mothers Maiden Name: SMITH
    GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 695

    THOMAS VERNON JEFFERY
    Mothers Maiden Name: SMITH
    GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 698
     
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    I did wonder why where he was living in Cardiff was named 'Cerne Abbas' That is a place in Dorset.

    The 1871 census that @Ma-dotcom found
    Gabriel, FWJ's father was born in Cerne Abbas, Dorset.

    Gabriel Francis Masters Jeffery
    Baptism date: 08 Nov 1834, Cerne-Abbas, Dorset, England
    Father Gabriel Baker Jeffery
    Mother: Alice Guppy

    Gabriel Francis Masters Jeffery married Emma Bullock in 1856 in West Ham, Essex
     
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    Gabriel Baker Jeffery was buried on 25 May 1843 in Epping, Essex
     
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    There is a marriage for an Alice Guppy Jeffery in Lambeth in 1850. So did Alice remarry?
     
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    From the Sherborne Mercury 27th May 1843
    May 20, Mr Gabriel Jeffery, Master of the Union House at Epping, Essex, aged 34 years, son of the late Mr W. Jeffery, of Sherborne. He was only taken ill on Tuesday, and died the following Saturday of a bilious fever.
     
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    The marriage cert is on Ancestry. Alice Guppy Jeffery was a widow, daughter of Francis Masters, married Edmund Champness, a widower and a 'gentleman' on the 15th October 1850 at St John's Church, Waterloo,
     
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    In 1851 Alice and Edmund Champness were Master and Matron of Epping Union Workhouse at Theydon Garnon, Essex. (HO107/1770/20853)
     
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    Wendy, Ann and Chimp many thanks for your help and findings!

    What a surprise! I found F.W.J. Jeffery on the crew list of the Duntrune in 1875 and 1880 in Australia. He made two trips first as an apprentice and in 1880 as mate. No other voyages found yet.

    Wendy: You found him in 1881, 1887 and 1889 in tickets of mariners right, may i ask what that was?

    I know that he later was skipper on the barge Mary & Kate for the English and continental shipping company.

    Still no trace in census of 1901 or 1911, probably on sea at the time.

    Wondering on what ship/ employment he was between 1895 and 1914
     
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    Arwin, they were 2nd Mate -14 Apr 1881
    Issue Port: London,Certificate Number: 09847
    Issue Date: 26 Mar 1887 -Competency as First Mate. square rigged schooner. London [hope this is right from memory]
    21 June 1889 Master: certificate no. 09847.

    Trying to find in my Firefox history but they have changed their page & it's so hard to find anything. Ancestry took me on a run through multi directories which had nothing to do with Frank W.J. Jeffrey. Not a good start for today with no I'net for some time.
     
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    I wonder if this thread is still around?

    Just found this forum, I'm currently looking for all of the descendants of William Jeffery and Susanna Baker and am concentrating on Gabriel Francis and both his marriages (1 to Emma Bullock and 2 to Eliza Fletcher nee Woodsend). I have most of them (I think) but would like to tie up any details.

    Also, I may be able to help with some stuff.

    My own interest in this is my own descent from William and Susanna's son, William, who married Kinburgh Forward Upjohn in 1829 at Melcombe Regis.

    Keith Jeffery, Brisbane in deepest darkest Queensland.
     
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