John Bradley 1861 census

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  1. Sis

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    Your thoughts please on what the birthplace at the top is. It's for John Bradley age 61 with wife Elizabeth, their son John is further up the page. I can see its Herts and the mark in front of Herts is an enumerators mark, as it's also on the page further up. I thought I'd worked it out, now I don't think I have.The place underneath is Kent, Trosley.
    RG09, Piece 468, Folio 68, Page 19. Thank you.

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    My first thought was Tring.....
     
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    Tewin - spelled To in perhaps?
     
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    That was what I had Ann, but I think the last letter is a y the same as the one below, which I know is Trosley.
     
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    Having a look at all the parishes in Herts, only two fit. Tring or Tewin. Your pick :)
     
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    I'd go with Tring
     
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    Thank you for your input ladies. I will go with Tring. Still can't find his baptism though!
     
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    My longstanding brick wall is a John Bradley. :headbang: There are quite a lot of them, aren't there?

    For what it's worth - yes, Tring. Definitely. :)
     
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    1851 census HO107, Piece 1607, Folio 533, Page 28

    His birth place is given as Tring

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    Tring is right on the edge of Hertfordshire by the border with Buckinghamshire, so always worth having a look there.

    The Buckinghamshire Baptism Index has a baptism for a John Bradley on 1st February 1801 to parents William and Elizabeth in Wendover, which you might find interesting.

    Wendover is only about 5 miles from Tring. :)
     
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    Thanks Chimp, me lad. The 1851 census didn't come up for me! Or maybe it did and I missed it!o_O:rolleyes:
     
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    Thanks very much Jan. I will have to have a study of county borders, me thinks. Yes, I am originally from England and yes I did spend 10 years as a Post Office telephonist! :rolleyes: But.... that was a loooooooong time ago.;)
     
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    Thanks very much for your input people.:)
     
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    1841 census HO107, Piece 482, Book 1, Folio 10, Page 13
    Lane End, Darenth, Dartford, Kent, England

    Asked if John born in county, it says Yes.

    There are a couple of births in Dartford for their children, John 1838 and Sarah 1840 with the mother's maiden name Bloomfield.
     
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    Bloomfield is either a mistranscription or her name at marriage was mistranscribed.

    John Bradley
    Elizabeth Broomfield
    Marriage date: 17 Dec 1826, Holy Trinity, Dartford, Kent
     
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    Yes, I have that one thank you Terry. I saw that it said he was born in the county, but after seeing the 1851 & 1861 census I thought that maybe the enumerator had made a mistake in the 1841 census. What do you think?

    It's so long since I paid this family a visit that I can't remember if I tried looking for him in Kent. Will go off and see what I can find, when I've had tea that is.
     
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    I have a copy of the marriage. It says Broomfield, but Elizabeth signed with an X, so chances are maybe she couldn't read either. Though John signed his name I doubt he would have checked what was written in the entry.

    Just to confuse things the GRO gives Broomfield for John 1838 and would you believe Bloomfield for Sarah 1840.:eek:

    OK, I'm away to eat before I end up having my tea at breakfast time.:rolleyes: Thanks for your help Terry, I think I will put these people aside until I've had some sleep.
     
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