John George

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  1. MollyMay

    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    I am working on my cousin's wife's family - her father died when she was just 12 and she knows nothing of his family.
    George is her direct line and I have hit a brick wall.

    John George married Margaret Davies on 24/8/1858 at the registry office, district of Merthyr Tydfil - I have the m/c.
    He give his age as 27 bachelor, living in Aberdare - his father was William George, farmer, deceased.
    No George Witnesses

    1861 census - Alma Street Aberdare RG09/4068/20/34
    John George coal miner b1832 Monmouth Nantyglo
    Margaret and Daughter Rachel

    1871 census Alma Street Aberdare RG10/5054/30/9
    John George coal miner b1831 Monmouthshire
    Margaret and children Rachel, Thomas, Catherine and Louisa
    (note no son called William)

    1881 census Margaret Street Aberdare RG11/5320/8/9
    John George collier b1831 Mon (sic)
    Margaret plus Thomas and Louisa and married Catherine, her husband and child

    John dies 1890 aged 59 (Margaret is living with now married son Thomas in 1891)

    So can anyone find John George prior to his marriage?
    I have searched 1841 & 1851 for a John with father William - farmer
    The only one I can find is in 1841 HO107 piece1417 book23 folio14 page3
    Welford Penmark Cardiff - but that appears to be miles away from Nantyglo and is in Glamorgan
    John is pretty consistent with his year of birth c1831 and Monmouthshire as pob
    Of course William the farmer may be an exaggeration or a figment of his imagination but without finding a baptism that is all I have to go on.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Again distance-31.7 miles from Aberdare :
    John George
    Christened: 13 May 1832
    Place: LLANCARFAN,GLAMORGAN,WALES
    Father's Name: William George
    Mother's Name: Mary
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05697-1 , System Origin: Wales-ODM , GS Film number: 104877 [Familysearch]

    Always possible that the Family moved when John was a small child.
    I can't find any 'George' names in censuses on FMP.
    If born late 1831 his reg. could be in 1832 & Baptism when pts found time & circumstances right.
     
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    There is a Baptism photocopy entry on a 'tree' for a John George b.17 mar 1832 Bapt'd 17 Apr. Father 'George' of Merthyr Parish & Margaret same Father & Parish 1834.
     
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    Thanks Wendy - William the farmer was married to Mary, so could be the one I found in Cardiff in 1841, Llancarfan is close to Penmark. If this was my man (and it could be - I cannot find them in 1851) and they had moved there from Monmouth he would not remember it. He was around 9 in 1841, so if they moved away shortly afterwards he would have been old enough to know his roots, so why state Monmouth as his pob?:headbang:
     

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