From the birth cert, Victor Kirkbride, born 5th march 1896, 20 Lower Byrom Street (Manchester), father blank, mother Elizabeth Pegg, informant M J Thompson, Occupier 20 Lower Byrom Street. Baptised, 25th March 1896, St Johns Church Manchester, mother Eliza Pegge, 26 Durham Place Hulme, Housekeeper. In the 3rd Qtr of 1897 in Leicester there is a marriage of a Robert James Kirkbride to an Eliza Pegg. In the 1901 census Victor is age 5 & the adopted son of the Sabin family, 85 Denman Street Leicester In the 1911 census Victor is age 15 & the adopted son of the Greenwood family,12 Ash Street Leicester In the 1901 census Robert & Eliza are living in Fleetwood Lancashire with Robert G Kirkbride age 2 & N.K Kirkbride age 1 month, Robert is a building manager. In the 1911 census Eliza is living in Jarvis Brook Sussex, she is not the head of the household, married,With Robert George Kirkbride 12, Gladys May Kirkbride 10 & Elennor Bell Kirkbride age 6, 3 children born 3 still living. Robert signs the census form "for his wife". There is a Robert James Kirkbride Carpenter, married, boarding with the Muggridge family in Norwood, born Fleetwood. The family stories. Eliza worked at the Blackboy Hotel in Albion Street Leicester, Robert came to Leicester on business & this is how they met, Robert came from Tunstall, Lancashire. Victor always knew who his parents were & Eliza did visit him, on one occasion she caused a sensation by arriving at his school in a car. When Victor joined the army during WW1 one of his commanding officers new the Kirkbride family & was very curious why Victor had the Kirkbride name but he never let on, i believe this was to protect his mother. Victor married Hilda Rose Dawkins in the March Qtr of 1918 in Leicester, Victor & Hilda are my maternal grandparents. Grandma Hilda told me herself that they did go to visit Eliza & although she was pleased to see them she was worried about her daughter arriving home. Ive started a small tree on the Kirkbride family, i have ordered the marriage cert of Hilda & Victor (there is a small possibility he named Robert as his father) the next obvious cert would be the marriage of Eliza & Robert but before i do that i would like to know what everyone thinks, do i have enough evidence that both Eliza & Robert are Victor's parents.