Lucketts Yard, Witney

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  1. Clare Mayo

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    My 3 x great grandfather, William Berry, was a fellmonger living in Lucketts Yard, High Street in 1841. Can anyone tell me where this was and also if any photos exist?

    Many thanks
     
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    Hello Clare - welcome to Genealogy Specialists. :)

    Now, I know nothing of the geography of Witney, but I have been doing a bit of digging.

    Going back a page or two in the census, you have the Kings Arms,which was at 106 High street, and also the Plough Inn at number 98. (Information from the Old Pubs website).

    Now, if you carry on down the High Street, reducing in house numbers, there seems to be 7 dwellings before you get to the next pub, The Jolly Waggoner. Then there is a butcher’s followed by the Kings Head. These last 2 pubs I have not found road numbers for. There then follows another 4 dwellings before Lucketts Yard.

    Working from the other direction, there appear to be 3 dwellings and then is Shaw’s Alley. If this alley is still in existence, it might help you to pin-point where Lucketts Yard was.

    This might help - or it could muddy the waters further.... :(
     
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    Hello Clare, and welcome from me too

    As Jan has discovered there were plenty of pubs in Witney, which are very useful landmarks in working out where you are on the census!

    Luckett's Yard is labelled on this OS map of Witney (1876 if I remember correctly), off the east side of the High Street, beginning just by the letter 'S' in HIGH STREET (click thumbnail to enlarge):

    1876 OS map.jpg

    It's almost opposite a quite distinctive building on the map, where the line of the frontages suddenly changes. That building, on the west side of the road, is now the Witney Sewing & Knitting Centre (no. 61 High St).

    I'm not sure if any of the buildings in the yard have survived. I will try to find out for you. I'm not aware of any photographs of the cottages.

    Have you seen the tithe map of Witney? If not I will dig that out too: it dates from very near the 1841 census so it may well be possible to work out exactly which cottage William Berry lived in.
     
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    Hi Jan

    Thanks for the information. I tried looking on Google Earth to see if I could walk down the High Street and find the place. However, I am a bit wobbly on Google Earth and things have changed so much since the 1800's. I think I will have to physically walk down the street with your instructions and pinpoint it that way.

    Clare
     
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    I think it was probably behind what is now 62 High Street. Google streetview shows shops called Music Stand (still there) and Sassi (since moved) on the street frontage. There's a label 'JAMES HOUSE' above a green door, which probably goes out to the back.

    P.S. not 100% sure though: I need to do more comparison of maps!
     
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    Hello Huncamunca

    I posted my reply to Jan before I saw your post. Many thanks for the information and the map. I haven't seen the tithe map so would appreciate you checking it for me.

    Incidently, I have yet to find a baptism for William Berry. He was born c1804 and gives Witney as his place of birth on census records. He died in 1864 and is buried in Witney cemetery with other members of his family. I have a copy of his will but no clues in there. As I said, he was a fellmonger by trade. He had 12 children and had connections to the Leather Market in Bermondsey. His eldest son married a girl from there and her father was also in the leather trade although he originally came from Burford. So William could well have come from there I suppose. I have been looking for over 20 years and it is extremely frustrating.

    Family trees - don't you just love them?
     
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    William Berry is shown in the tithe award (c.1840) as occupying plot 816 on the tithe map. Here's a copy of a section of the map for that part of the High Street. I've added labels for Luckett's Yard and Shaw's Alley.

    Luckett's Yard area copy.jpg

    The numbers are hard to make out. The cottages in Luckett's Yard are (from the award) nos 807 to 818. From the map, nos 807-809 are a separate row of three (below my label 'Luckett's Yard') and then the longer row runs from 810 (furthest from the street) to 818 (nearest the street). These are all behind a pair of buildings fronting the High Street, nos 819 and 820 on the map.
     
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    I will try to find some photographs. Luckett's Yard, as such, has been re-developed, but there should be some views of the High Street facade(s).
     
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    Thanks very much.
     
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    Luckett's Yard is, I think, through the opening that can just be discerned in the centre of the buildings on the right of the picture. The shop on the left is the projecting building that can be seen on the Tithe Map, a little to the south of the yard. WIT95201.jpg
     
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    Fantastic! Thanks very much Eurylus. What a great photo.
     

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