Manslaughter at Knighton, Radnorshire

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  1. Chimp

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    Not an Ancestor, but....

    In the Hereford Journal dated Saturday 22 November 1862 there is a piece on a Manslaughter at Knighton, Radnorshire.

    It is about Samuel Watkins who ran the Queen's Head Inn.

    4 men beat the poor old bloke nearly to death, but at the post mortem it was found that he had diseased lungs and that is what finally did him in.

    Those tried were Richard Woosencroft (sic) and Edward Brown plus to others only mentioned by surname, one being Evans.

    The last piece says

    "The two men, Brown and Woosencroft, who were found guilty by the coroner's jury, on Wednesday, of manslaughter on the man Watkins, were apprehended on Thursday, and taken before R. Green Price, Esq., who remanded them till Thursday next. Bail was accepted for their appearance, themselves in £50 each, and two others in £25 each."

    How do I find out what happened on " Thursday next." to the 4 men?

    Any suggestions?
     
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    This is worse than waiting for the next installment of a serial!

    In which case, probably the next edition of the newspaper. Then, as now, scandals sold newspapers. ;)
     
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    That's why I don't watch any serials :D
     
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    Hereford Journal of the 29th November
    Charge of Manslaughter.—Edward Brown Richard Worzencraft, both surrendered themselves to their bondsmen to answer to a charge of the manslaughter of Samuel Watkins. Committed to take their trial at the assizes, bail being taken in £100 each, of two sureties, and the prisoners in £50 each. After some slight delay Mr. Jeremiah Brown and Mr. Edward Brown were accepted as sureties.—We gave all the facts of this case in our report of the inquest last week.

    Wasn't worth holding your breath for :rolleyes:

    Will see if I can find any more
    Ann
     
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    Thank you very much Ann. That is another piece to the puzzle. If I keep holding my breath I'll turn blue :D
     
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    For goodness sake - BREATH - I don't want to be responsible for a blue Chimp :eek:

    Anyway, I've found the assize report, but it is quite lengthy, so you'll have to bear with me until tomorrow (do you think you can wait that long?) and I'll sort it out as I have to stop now. Will e-mail you tomorrow ;)

    Ann
     
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    Thank you very much Ann, that will be brilliant. Take your time please.

    Thank you again ;)
     
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    Take your time, Ann...I've always wondered what a blue chimp looks like... :cool:
     
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    OK, you can all breathe a sigh of relief - the outcome of the trial which took place at the March Assizes in 1863, was that the Judge stopped the trial and directed the jury to find the prisoners 'not guilty' - this despite them having beaten the poor chap with a stick and laid into him with their fists, and him not dying until 10 days later. The surgeon who examined the deceased discovered long term disease and concluded that the inflammation he found, and despite the injury to his ribs being caused by a blow - it could have been caused by a cold........

    I will let you decide if you think that was a fair result :(

    Ann
    PS Will be in touch later Terry
     
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    Tuh!
     
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    oh, I messed that up :oops:
     
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    Brilliant Ann, I've read the email. I wonder if Samuel Watkins had been a person of note would the prisoners have been let off. There's a part, a very big part of me that says not bloomin likely.

    Thank you again ;)
     
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    Sounds a lot like the modern judicial systems.
     
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    Its not what you know, but WHO you know in this country even now.
     
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