Marriage choices

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  1. ColinA

    ColinA Active Member

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    I was going to ask - If I locate a marriage for a chap on Ancestry and FreeBMD and the page says that 2 chaps and 2 ladies married (on same page) is there a way to work out which chap married which lady, or is that exactly why I need the certificate? (It's Irwin Jesse Hughes Sep 1904 Newark) 7b 827.

    Hold on! :)

    I couldn't find him on the 1911 census to see what his wife's first name was. Then I remembered he worked in Ireland so I think I have found him.
     
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    Also, if you can't decide which woman he married, the England and Wales GRO will allow you to try both surnames on births after the marriage to pick the right one. In Ireland I'm not sure.
     
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    Here's my slant on things

    Marriages Sep 1904 - on the page there are 4 names

    Bradley Nelly
    Dickman Elizabeth
    Hughes Irwin Jesse
    Shaw Edwin

    Couldn't find anything for Irwin Jesse, but searching on Edwin Shaw in 1911 there is:-

    1911 Census For England & Wales
    10 George Street Newark, Newark upon Trent, Nottinghamshire, England

    Edwin Shaw, Head, Married, Male, 31, 1880, Blacksmiths Striker, Newark Notts
    Ellen Shaw, Wife, Married, Female, 29, 1882, Ingham Lincoln
    Frank Shaw, Son, Male, 6, 1905, Newark Notts
    Agnes Shaw, Daughter, Female, 4, 1907, Newark Notts
    Edwin Shaw, Son, Male, 3, 1908, Newark Notts
    Ellen Shaw, Daughter, Female, 1, 1910, Newark Notts

    I have just been doing some private research. I also have a Nelly who was also Ellen at other times. A bit like Peggy for Margaret.

    They say they have been married 7 years so around 1904.

    Looking on the GRO for births:-

    SHAW, FRANK - BRADLEY - Newark 1905
    SHAW, EDWIN - BRADLEY - Newark 1908
    SHAW, AGNES - BRADLEY - Newark 1907
    SHAW, ELLEN - BRADLEY - Newark 1910

    Edited to add - Can't find a marriage of an Edwin Shaw to an Ellen Bradley

    So I would say Edwin Shaw married Nelly Bradley and Irwin Jesse Hughes married Elizabeth Dickman.

    Only one way to be 100% sure though :)
     
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    patten-walsh Well-Known Member

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    Nelly Bradley is listed on the GRO as Newark Jul-Sep 1904 Vol 7b page 327 whereas Edwin Shaw is listed as Vol 7b page 827. 827 is correct for Edwin but 327 for Nelly is a bit blurry on the original and could well be 827
     
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    Thanks all!
     
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    A bit off piste but never assume.... My mum was always called Peggy... her given name was Dorothy!! They said it was because of an aunt...I am sure I have found all the aunts she had... no Peggys, Margarets , or Dorothys!!
     
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    I never knew that; it's these small gems of information which help.
     
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