Mary Ann Dean CROSS - baptised twice?

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  1. Daft Bat

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    What seems like a thousand years ago, I visited the Maidstone Archives (no interwebby back then ;) ) and found the baptism of a several times great grandmother Mary Ann Dean CROSS.

    This took place at St Michael's, Smarden, Kent on 12th June 1825, her mother was Sarah - "a single woman" - and was seen on a microfilm of the parish records.

    When she married, she named her father as William DEAN - hence the 'Dean' in her name.

    As I had nothing better to do, I was having a rummage on FindMyPast to see if there was anything else going on that would give me a clue to who this mysterious William could be. Up popped the following transcription:

    Mary Anne Deane CROSS baptised at Pluckley, Kent on 21st August 1842, aged 18. Mother named as Sarah - no father.

    It might be that she did not know that she had been baptised but Mary Ann did not wed until 23rd April 1844 (to Charles HILLS at Ulcombe, Kent) so I cannot think that that could have been the reason.

    If anyone could shed any light on this mystery, I would be grateful. :)
     
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    Was she in service? I seem to remember reading somewhere that some employers insisted on staff being baptised and if they could not prove it, then they were baptised to make sure;)
     
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    Ooh! I have not seen that. Maybe she was. I have not found her in the 1841 census to find out. If she was still in Smarden, then I won't as that is one of the parts that are missing. :( Her marriage certificate in 1844 gives no occupation for her, so that's no help. :mad:
     
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    Looking at her bapt. (original on FMP) the occupation listed is a milliner, but it is not clear whether that is hers, or her mother Sarah's.
    I had hoped there might be other adult bapts. at the same time, but none.
    She was the only bapt. in August.
     
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    Hmmm... Sarah was either a charwoman or laundress in the censuses. No trace of her in 1841 either... :(
     
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    upload_2020-3-27_16-45-28.png - so it could be Mary Ann's occupation.

    No E on dean either upload_2020-3-27_16-47-15.png
     
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    It could have been Mary Ann's occupation. I have just checked and she was shown as a dressmaker in the censuses. :)
     
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    I did see a William Dean who was a Blacksmith in the 1841 census in Biddenden - not too far from Smarden - about three and a half miles.
     
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    Bit of discussion on rootschat forum on a similar question

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    Ooh! Will look into that tomorrow. Thank you. :)
     
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    At her marriage in 1844, Mary Ann said that William's occupation was that of "Smith".

    Hmm... he wed someone named Charlotte. Looking at the 1851 census, he has now become a farmer and Charlotte was born in Beckley, Rye, about 13 miles away. Checking for marriages, there is one in Rye between a William DEAN and a Charlotte KING in 1823 - 2 years before Mary Ann was born.

    Could I be looking at a bit of a scandal? :nailbiting:
     
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    The image for this marriage can be seen on familysearch top of page 107 (image No. 400)
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