Mary Ann MERRITT - missing before marriage...

Discussion in 'Middlesex' started by Daft Bat, Jul 16, 2018.

  1. janetbooth

    janetbooth Top Dog Stalwart

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,424
    Likes Received:
    2,930
    Location:
    Congleton, Cheshire
    Perhaps another sibling of Mary Ann? Marriage at St Mary Rotherhithe on 9 January 1841 of a Thomas MERRETT, Carpenter, full age, to a Mary Ann MARLETT, widow, his father being Thomas MERRETT, Coachman, and one of the witnesses was a John MERRETT. John MERRETT looks to have married at St Mary Lambeth on 19 November 1844, he being of full age and a Joiner, father Thomas MERRETT, Coachman.

    Janet
     
  2. Flook

    Flook A True Gentleman. Rest in Peace.

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,734
    Likes Received:
    3,249
    Location:
    Nottingham U.K.
    I've found a death for Matilda Gurr but nothing else about her.

    A death of Matilda Gurr aged 42 is in Ancestry's Deaths & Burials for Hackney 21st October 1875 which matches nicely with Mary Ann's possible date of birth.
    Matilda is also in Hackney Workhouse Discharge Register 21st October 1875 'Discharged Dead'.
     
    AnnB likes this.
  3. Jellylegs

    Jellylegs Well-Known Member

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,465
    Likes Received:
    3,000
    Location:
    Maidstone, Kent
    The only thing I can find which may be Thomas Merritt is in the 1861 census RG09/347/131/3. Think it may be the Lambeth Workhouse.

    T. M. inmate, widower, born 1807 Kennington - a coachman.
     
    janetbooth and Daft Bat like this.
  4. Daft Bat

    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

    Offline
    Messages:
    6,402
    Likes Received:
    24,805
    Location:
    Northamptonshire, England.
    Thank you - that year of birth might help to find him in earlier censuses. :)
     
  5. Jellylegs

    Jellylegs Well-Known Member

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,465
    Likes Received:
    3,000
    Location:
    Maidstone, Kent
    I did have a look, but couldn't find anything. Maybe someone else will have better luck.
     
    Daft Bat likes this.
  6. MollyMay

    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

    Offline
    Messages:
    5,397
    Likes Received:
    14,002
    Location:
    Middlesex
    Me too - nothing for Thomas no surname born 1807+/- 5 years occ. coachman, quite a few but no-one with any surname remotely like Merritt:( in 1851

    There is a Timothy Merritt - Coachman in Haughton St, St Clement Danes, Strand in 1841 HO107 piece 731 book 11 folio 27 page 4 born 1809 Middlesex and Hannah Merritt born 1811 Middlesex
     
    Ma-dotcom, Jellylegs and Daft Bat like this.
  7. janetbooth

    janetbooth Top Dog Stalwart

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,424
    Likes Received:
    2,930
    Location:
    Congleton, Cheshire
    They all seem to be remarkable by their absence in earlier census & baptismal records, don't they. Matilda MERRETT/MERRITT is not a particularly common name and we know approximately when she was born but prior to her marriage as Matilda DEAR, there seems to be no trace of her - that I can find anyway! If the marriage records of Thomas & John MERRETT are other children of your Thomas senr, Coachman, which does seem a possibility, where are they in early census records and baptismal records.

    There is a newspaper article in The Era dated 11 September 1842 which states that Thomas MERRITT of Chapel Yard, City Road, Coach Maker, is listed in the Insolvent Debtors Petitions dated 7 September 1842 - could he perhaps be relevant to you? Think I am clutching at straws somewhat!

    Janet
     
    Daft Bat and Flook like this.
  8. MollyMay

    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

    Offline
    Messages:
    5,397
    Likes Received:
    14,002
    Location:
    Middlesex
    I think this is the son, who married Mary Ann
    1841 census HO107 piece 677 book 7 folio 28 page 21
    address City Road Bell Yard, St Luke, Middlesex
     
  9. Flook

    Flook A True Gentleman. Rest in Peace.

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,734
    Likes Received:
    3,249
    Location:
    Nottingham U.K.
    Just a little slip.HO107 piece 667 book 7 folio 48 page 21.

    It looks interesting.
     
  10. MollyMay

    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

    Offline
    Messages:
    5,397
    Likes Received:
    14,002
    Location:
    Middlesex
    Thanks Flook:oops: (that is what is on my notepad, so double:oops::oops:)
     
  11. janetbooth

    janetbooth Top Dog Stalwart

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,424
    Likes Received:
    2,930
    Location:
    Congleton, Cheshire
    That'll teach me. I had tunnel vision looking for both Thomas junr & John as either Carpenters or Joiners on census records as per their marriage records, but it is perfectly feasible that Thomas junr could have used his carpentry skills making coaches isn't it.

    Janet
     
    Ma-dotcom, Flook and MollyMay like this.
  12. MollyMay

    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

    Offline
    Messages:
    5,397
    Likes Received:
    14,002
    Location:
    Middlesex
    The spouse was Ann Winfield - looking at the GRO there were 3 sons reg. to Merrett mmn Winfield. William 1845 (twice) and Thomas 1848 (Greenwich Union reg district).
    Armed with this I went looking for the family in 1851 HO107/1586/445/30
    14 John Street, Greenwich.
    John Merrett head carpenter b1818 in Gloucestershire St Marys
    Ann wife b1820 Oxfordshire
    John son b1842 Deptford
    William son b1846 Greenwich
    Thomas son b1848 Greenwich
    Eliza Ann dau b1850 Greenwich

    1861 14 John Street RG09/400/47/18
    1871 Ann is widowed, Albion Street, St Alphage, Greenwich
    RG10/755/111/15
    1881 RG11/623/100/27 in Talma Road, Brixton

    So have we been too narrow in searching for the Merritts in London?
     
    Ma-dotcom and Flook like this.
  13. janetbooth

    janetbooth Top Dog Stalwart

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,424
    Likes Received:
    2,930
    Location:
    Congleton, Cheshire
    Oh what a good find MM. Parish Register of Gloucester St Mary de Lode: 22 June 1817 John son of Thomas & Elizabeth MERRETT, Parish of Holy Trinity, Coachman. More to follow hopefully.

    Janet
     
    Ma-dotcom, MollyMay and Flook like this.
  14. janetbooth

    janetbooth Top Dog Stalwart

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,424
    Likes Received:
    2,930
    Location:
    Congleton, Cheshire
    Banns of the marriage of a Thomas MERRETT & Elizabeth JORDAN read at Gloucester St Mary de Lode on 20 June, 5 July & 12 July 1812, both being shown as of the parish. The marriage took place on 9 August 1812 at the same church. Both made their mark. This is followed by a baptism of a Henry MERRETT at St Mary de Lode on 16 December 1816, parents Thomas & Elizabeth, College Precincts, Ostler.

    Janet
     
    MollyMay likes this.
  15. Londoner

    Londoner Will always roll up her sleeves and dig around

    Offline
    Messages:
    777
    Likes Received:
    3,152
    Location:
    Cornwall
    Looks like Thomas's career was on the up. When first son William was born in 1813 he was a "post boy" at the Boot..... Inn. The next son was Henry and he was then an ostler.
    Thomas married Elizabeth Jordan 9 Aug 1812 by banns, three witnesses but not easy to read.

    Ah! You beat me to it!
     
    MollyMay likes this.
  16. janetbooth

    janetbooth Top Dog Stalwart

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,424
    Likes Received:
    2,930
    Location:
    Congleton, Cheshire
    Three heads are always better than one! William seems to have stayed in Gloucestershire, Barton St Mary in the 1851 census (HO107/1962, folio 323, page 26), married to an Elizabeth, and has become a Gardener. He married Elizabeth Jane SAVORY on 12 October 1835 at St Mary de Lode, both being shown as of the hamlet of Barton St Mary.

    Still having no luck with the baptisms of Mary Ann or Matilda though.

    Janet
     
    Jellylegs and MollyMay like this.
  17. janetbooth

    janetbooth Top Dog Stalwart

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,424
    Likes Received:
    2,930
    Location:
    Congleton, Cheshire
    Just to round of the Gloucestershire bit, there is a burial at St Mary de Lode for an Elizabeth MERRETT on 5 March 1837, aged 73, and one for Thomas MERRETT on 17 June 1845, aged 73, so whether this couple is the correct couple for the parents of your Mary Ann & Matilda, Jan, I do not know. Thomas junr's 1841 census record that MM found shows that he was not born in the county c1816 give or take a few years, so I wonder where he was baptised.

    Janet
     
  18. Daft Bat

    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

    Offline
    Messages:
    6,402
    Likes Received:
    24,805
    Location:
    Northamptonshire, England.
    I am sorry that I have not been as responsive than I could have been this week, but I have been helping my brother move out of the home in which he has lived for the past 20-odd years. :eek: Therefore, my internet time has been limited. :oops:

    However, I want to thank each and every one of you who has worked on this query for me. I have lifted your replies and will have a rummage round using the information that you have all found.

    A huge {-(^^)-}to you all. :)
     
  19. janetbooth

    janetbooth Top Dog Stalwart

    Offline
    Messages:
    1,424
    Likes Received:
    2,930
    Location:
    Congleton, Cheshire
    Hope some of it proves useful to you, Jan, and that you recover from all your exertions - the very thought of moving makes me feel exhausted!!

    Janet
     
    Ma-dotcom, Chimp and Daft Bat like this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice