Ive now scrolled through the transcripts of both of those Ann, nothing. There is one Batchelor family,a Richard son of Thos and Elizabeth, but I think we have scrubbed the Batchelors now. I went with them in the first place 'cos the marriage of James and Mary was close to where they ended up Reigate/Wimbledon. But there are no naming patterns as burt has pointed out. If only they had stuck around long enough to have a child in registration time.