Mary Jane Bennett and son Percival George Bennett in Canada/USA

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    Mary Jane and her son were living at RG14/13846/11/820 in the 1911 census in Cornwall,England.In the household are Mary Jane's daughter and Mary's sister and brother-in-law. I have all the Cornwall details.
    Mary Jane and son emigrated and I can't find when or where to and I can't find them in the census.
    Did Mary decide to go to Gill or Bennett family that may have emigrated?
    On familysearch there is a death of Mary -Birth 24 November 1868 England, United Kingdom and Death 14 February 1938 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States and it has her parents George Gill and Mary Tomkin.(Tomkin should be Tonkin.) and I have found a grave with the name Mary Gill Bennett.
    Also on Familysearch there is Percy Bennett born Truro (1899) age 19 and a ship clerk - race English and nationality Canadian .The date is 7/6/18.
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    and his mother [​IMG]
    When did Percy land in Canada and where did his moter go to . They should be in 2 censuses but I can;t find hide or hair.
    I have found many with the same names but no luck yet.
     
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    Bennett should be the surname. I put one letter T for Mary by mistake.
    Can it be changed please. (Done)
    Mary was buried at the Evergreens Cemetery ,Brooklyn,Kings County (Brooklyn) New York. Her death was 14 February 1938
    Familysearch has this on the New York municipal death. Is this where she could have been living in 1930?
    It has her parents name and that of her husband.( Mary was a widow by 1911 in Cornwall )
    X marks the spot for additional relatives. So where was son Percy?
    Residence Place Queens .Address 247-17 89th Ave. Bellrose.
     
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    Should it Bellerose?
    Familysearch has this on the New York municipal death. Is this where she could have been living in 1930? Residedence Place Queens .Address 247-17 89th Ave.Bellrose.
     
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    There is a birth certificate on FS for a Melvin Gerrard Bennett June 16 1928.
    Father is Percy George Bennett, 26 carpenter born England. Mother is Addie Brock 20 born New Jersey. Their address is Neece Street Walteria California.
     
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    The Percy Bennett that you found in Canada is I think Percy Everett Bennett. If you check Cornwall OPC emigrants you will find him on Canada Soldiers of the First World War. He was 19 years and 10 months. Born Hale living in Brooklyn with his mother Laura. He was clerk. He looks as if he went to Canada to enlist.
     
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    That Percy was born in Hayle so he isn't he one and he was living with his mother Laura and family at Hayle in 1891.
    The Percy I am looking for was born in Truro and living in Truro with his mother and family in 1911 and his mother is Mary Jane.
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    I should have said he was living with his mother Laura at Hayle in 1911.
    I will have to see if I can find a marriage with names.
    Edit:
    Not the right chap.
    His mother is Grita Alice Stock born London and his father is George E Bennett born London.
     
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    The Border Crossing document for Percy says he landed Montreal Oct 1911 aboard the steamer Roy[al] George, and his last address was in Toronto.

    The images for the Royal George are very faded in places, but they have been transcribed on Ancestry as Jean & Lucy Bannett, and on Familysearch as Jessie & Amy Bennett.

    Looking at the image, 'Lucy/Amy' is in the male column, and the name looks to me as though it says Master Percy aged 13 born England, destination Toronto. The person above him does look like either Jessie or Jean, but it says she is a widow & dressmaker aged 43 - which matches with the 1911 census - and going to her sister in Toronto.

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    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6LG1-G1?i=9&wc=36TR-1XC%3A981985501%2C982012901%2C982117701&cc=1823240
    In 1920 I think Percy is in Boston, Masschusetts:
    Percy G Bennett 21 Single born England immigrated 1911
     
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    The widow and dressmaker plus son Percy adds up but her sisters are accounted for in England.
    I have been trying to find them in the areas mentioned on the documents where Mary Jane died. Post 2 and the area Mary was living in post 6/
     
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    I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for with Percy, but the WW2 card for him gives a DoB of 26 Jul 1898, and there is a Social Security Death Index record for a GEORGE Bennett with the same date of birth, issued New Jersey before 1951, last address 10003, New York, died Feb 1864.

    This, and the WW2 card, suggests he lived in NY but worked in NJ, and there is a marriage in NY in 1927 between Percy G Bennett & Christine Wagelie. They are together in the 1930 census in at 89th Avenue, Queens, NY, but Percy is enumerated as GEORGE Bennett aged 31 born England.

    So this suggests that Mary died at her son's home, but she may not have been living with him for long prior to that.

    A possible for Mary in 1920 is in California, living with/working as a nurse for a family named West:
    Mary Bennett 52 Widow born England, immigrated 1912.
     
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    I have looked at the marriage and Percy's parents and there. William Bennett and Mary Gill.:)
    I wish that I could find the name of a person Mary was to see in the USA.
    No Percy in 1940 and Christine is with her parents.
     
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    With the help of Andromeda it seems that Mary Jane Bennett visited her sister Annie Gill in Canada.
    Annie Gill was born in Camborne in 1872 but living with her family in 1881 in Truro and in 1891 she was a domestic servant in the household of Mary A Cock at Boscawen Bridge, Tregolls Road, St Clement, Truro, Cornwall
    There is a 4th June 1908 crossing of Mary Gill age 35 to Quebec and Montreal that may be her.
    Annie Gill married Alfred James Hale in Toronto 1st Jan 1909.
    Andromeda found Percy's WW2 card and the address is 89th Ave, Bellerose, Queens, NY. Contact Mrs Annie Hale, same address.
    Percy's wife Christine is living with her parents in 1940 and M is crossed through so it is presumed that Parcy and Christine are no longer married and he had his aunt as next of kin.
    Having difficulty finding Percy and Annie in 1940.
     
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    I have found Annie and Alfred on the 1911 census .Toronto East,Ontario.
    They are roomers. Alfred was born in 1863.
     
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    Andromeda faound Annie Hale on findagrave but Annie's birthplace was Kent and there is a photograph of her.
    This may be the correct person but the wrong place of birth was given.
    I managed to find May 1944 obituary newspaper reports about Annie and she was in the Salvation Army and she leaves behind a nephew but no name given. he could be Percy George.
    Familysearch has her death and her parents are George Gill and Mary-also correct.
    I also found Annie's emigration the the US with her husband Alfred with Alfred paying passage.1915 and going to
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    She is correct because her place of birth is Camborne.
    The actual manifest has this beside their names. What does R.A.W mean?
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    Here is Annie Hale's death certificate, which confirms she was the wife/widow of Alfred, and if you scroll to the 2nd page you'll see that George Bennett (Percy) appointed the funeral home and was her nephew.

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    https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/9445820
    On Mary Jane's death certificate, Annie Hale was the informant, but Percy (Percival George Bennett) was again the person who instructed the funeral home:

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    https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/7770655
    I'll have to take a look at the passenger record for context & will get back to you!
     
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    If you look at the other passengers, they all have 'Primary' followed by letters, and at the bottom of the page is a list of Immigration Inspectors whose names match these initials. RAW is Reinhold A Wahl.
     
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    Trust me not to look at the bottom of the page.:rolleyes:
     
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    Are divorce records online?
    Would like to see Percy's if possible and that should finish that branch.
    No death certificate for the 1970s.
    It is a pity that Annie's birth was put as Kent on the grave stone.
    Perhaps Percy didn't know they came from Cornwall.
     
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    I doubt it mentions Kent anywhere on the gravestone (assuming there is one - there's no photo of it) - its just what someone has added to the Findagrave record. All the death certificate says is England.

    Divorce records in NY have a 100 year rule.
     
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    Just checked her obituaries, and that's where 'Kent' has come from. Wouldn't be the first time that newspapers have got it wrong!
     
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