mckenzie and cox research

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    clearview New Member

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    I have recently begun my research into the history of both of my parents heritage and have discovered thus far that both families came to Australia under the Assisted Passage scheme in the 1800s.

    My great grandfather on mum's side was Thomas Cox born 1807 married to Anne? born 1808 and they came to Australia on the Ghengis Kahn in (July)1853. This is as far back as I have been able to search.

    My great grandfather on dad's side was Colin McKenzie born 1817 somewhere around Strathpeffer in Scotland I believe. He was married to Anne Cameron born 1922. I think they were married in Foddarty in 1846.
    They arrived in Australia in March 1852 on board the Sir George Seymour.

    Having so much trouble as there are so many McKenzie families and so many Cox families that I do not know how to proceed.
    I would really appreciate any help as I am very new to this and want to be able to share my finding with my parents before they leave this earth.
     
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    GrannyBarb Custodian of the Family Accounts

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    Welcome! :)
    I looked on Scotland's People and could not find a marriage in the date range 1840 to 1850 for Colin McKenzie and Anne Cameron (ticked name variants options). Also, I could not find them in the 1851 census. Do you have their death records which might give more info, perhaps? Or the names of any siblings? I will broaden my search terms some while I try to think of other "stuff" to try.

    Oh,here's the marriage:
    MCKENZIE COLIN
    ANN CAMERON/
    20/12/1845
    065/20 135
    Fodderty

    Costs 6 credits to view, which I don't have available right now. Perhaps someone will come along with access to view, if you haven't already.
     
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    From FMP (transcript only)

    Colin McKenzie and Ann Cameron married on 20 Dec 1845 at Fodderty, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland.

    No other info given.
     
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    On the NSW, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger lists on Ancestry for the "Sir George Seymour" - March 1852:

    Colin McKenzie aged 35 a labourer. Father Alexander (dead). Mother Ellen in Strathpeffer?

    Ann McKenzie aged 30 a House Servant. Father Donald (dead). Mother Ann living in Strathpeffer?

    Ellen 4 )
    Donald 3 ) Parents on board ship
    Margaret 1 and a half or 1 and one month? )
     
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    1851 Scotland Census transcription

    at Bottacks, Fodderty, Ross and Cromarty

    Colin Mackenzie 38 (so maybe should be 28?) born Fodderty - Crofter of 2 Acres

    Ann Mackenzie 23 (wife) born Fodderty
    Helen - 4 born Fodderty
    Donald - 2 born Fodderty
    Margaret - 6 months born Fodderty

    This is a transcription only. To see the original you will have to buy some credits to Scotlands People (unless some kind person has some to spare which they are willing to use).

    I have to go to bed now as have work tomorrow, so maybe someone else will be able to look for transcripts of the 1841 census now we have parent's names.
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Hi clearview, welcome.
    The Ghengis Khan arrived Melbourne and both Thomas 46 and Anne 45 appear on the manifest. Not sure of any children. There are few Cox children on board but I’m not looking at the original just a list on Victorian immigration records.
    However, did Thomas and Anne die in Victoria?
    My reason for asking is that there is a death if a Thomas Cox registered at Carisbrook in 1882 age 75...perfect if he’s yours but no father’s name.
     
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    Hi Granny Barb

    Thank you so much for what you have already found for me. I have been a little busy and no time to spend on the family history.

    Colin McKenzie's dad was Alexander who married Ellen McPhail in 1810.

    From there things got a little harder for me.

    I think Alexander's dad was John MacKenzie who married Anne McDonald. It is a difficult journey tracing history and a lot of time so I do thank you for everyone's effort.

    Clearview
     
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    Hello Archie"s mum

    Thank you ever so much for the time you have spent researching for me.
    I have found a few things since I posted last.

    Thomas and Ann were married 27/7/1824 at Buxworth Cambridge.

    Yes both Thomas and Ann died in Victoria. Thomas and Ann are both buried at the Coburg Pine Ridge Cemetery.

    Thomas' dad was, I think, James Cox but I have nothing on his mother's name.
    Ann's parents were Thomas Neale married Elizabeth Benton. They resided in Woodhurst Huntingdonshire.

    A slow process but trying to get there. Thank you again.

    Clearview
     
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    The other side of my mother's family were of the Saxon Family.
    This family arrived aboard the Gorgiana which sailed from Liverpool in 1840. Arrived Port Phillip Victoria in 1841.

    This was William Saxon b. 1818 and Elizabeth (Frances Weeder) b. 1812. They were married in Prestwich Lancashire at St Mary the Virgin church.

    William had a brother named Abraham who arrived in Australia in 1852 and settled in Brunswick Melbourne in 1839?.
    William I think was a Town Hall Keeper????

    I tried to find out about William's father. So far only thing I think is correct..... Joseph Saxon b. 1791 m. Sarah Lees??? b.1798
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Was Abraham a bit of a rogue? A few dismissed charges in the Papers! One for insulting females in a pub. :)
     
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    No idea really but would be interested to read.
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Lancashire OPC has the marriage and births of the Saxons
    Joseph Saxon married Sarah Lees 13/10/1817 at St Michaels and All Angels Ashton under Lyne.
    I think the following are their children
    William 1818 Joseph was a weaver
    Alice 1820 Joseph was a carter
    John 1822 ditto
    Mary 1826 ditto
    Ann 1828 ditto
    Abram 1831 ditto
    Elizabeth 1836 ditto
    Joseph 1839 ditto
    All born Lancashire
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Have you had a look at Trove?
    Old Australian newspapers on line.
    Give it a go and if you get stuck just holler and we will give you a hand.
    There is Joseph Saxon mentioned as well but not sure if it is the youngest brother or not.
     
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    Looks like Joseph came out as well. There is a death in 1907 of Joseph Saxon age 68 mother maiden name Lees. Victoria BDM
     
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    Possible baptism of Joseph Saxon 1791 father John Saxon mother Sarah. 16/1/1791 St John the Baptist, Hey Lancashire. Abode Turfpits and again same details 6/6/1791 at same place. No idea why two baptisms though.
    Possible baptism for Sara Lees. 14/10/1798 St Mary Oldham Lancashire. Father Abram Lees mother Alice. This looks like your Sarah as both these names are repeated in William’s siblings.
     
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    thank you so much.
    your research abilities astound me.
    I have searched for days and you seem to find it in no time.
    appreciate everything.
     
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    The Saxons are easy. Just enter ‘Lancashire OPC’ and have a play. Don’t worry too much about entering anything other than the name until you get used to it. If you keep on the track back you will find records of great grandparents as well, maybe. Great fun, but you have to work backwards through baptisms, marriages etc. I like Lancashire records.
     
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    Thank you for the suggestion of looking in 'Lancashire OPC'.
    I will definitely try that.
     
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