Medals for Local Lad KIA 14.11.1916 France

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  1. Ma-dotcom

    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Could some one with ancestry world sub. help me out here please? It's for Lady working on finding local Men in WW1 for a local upcoming memorial site.
    I'll PM details if any takers.
    Taa.
     
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    Huncamunca The Knowledgeable One

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    I have a UK sub if that will do, Wendy? Let me know who it is you're looking for and I'll do my best to help.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Thanks you Jane, needs to be World as this chap & his brother joined Canadian Infantry- died 1916 in Miraumont, Departement de la Somme, Picardie, France.
    I have world FMP & UK Heritage Ancestry - no good. Nothing found yet on online Canadian sites.
     
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    Huncamunca The Knowledgeable One

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    Oh, OK sorry Wendy (I got confused by the posting in Gloucestershire). I hope someone else is more helpful than me!
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Sorry for the confusion Jane, didn't think ahead to the possible searcher there.
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    Thread moved. :)
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Taa muchley Jan. :)
    (shades of genealogical conflicts here for a moment; )
     
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    euryalus Well-Known Member

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    Canadian servicemen killed in action in the two world wars should be recorded on the Commonwealth War Graves website which, as its name implies, covers the entire Commonwealth as well as the United Kingdom. I have just checked the CWGC site, and there are large numbers of Canadians buried in the Adanac Military Cemetery at Miraumont.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    So I thought also Euryalus, but not found him.
    I found relevant info on F.search but n mention of medals & that is what the Lady needs to know of.
    According to that info he went to Canada in
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    What was the surname?
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Prout G.
     
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    Huncamunca The Knowledgeable One

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    If he is the one I think he is (edited to add, yes he is!), he is on CWGC but just with initial not full first name.

    It's no help with the medals though. I wouldn't know where to look for those. :( The two sites below are the only Canadian First World War sites I use; they both have info about him:

    Service files:
    http://www.
    bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/search.aspx
    (I think this might be the same as what's on Ancestry in their 'Canada Soldiers of the First World War' database, but am not certain.)

    Canadian Great War Project:
    http://www.
    canadiangreatwarproject.com/
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    Gerald's service number is 160990 according to the CWGC website, which may help when looking for his medal records.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Thanks Jane I had one of those, neither give medals if any.

    Thanks Jan' also.
     
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    Have you checked the local newspapers to see if there is an obit that mentions the medals?
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    From memory Jan, I think she's been into all that as well as interviewing local rellies & those who may remember. This chap has eluded so far.
     
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    Huncamunca The Knowledgeable One

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    There's a useful multi-part guide here to researching Canadian soldiers of the First World War:
    http://
    regimentalrogue.com/misc/researching_first_world_war_soldiers.htm

    Apparently there are often medal cards in the service files. What I hadn't twigged is that for some people, more than just the attestation papers has been digitised ('If an individual's file has been digitized, a link to the file will appear to the right of his or her attestation papers.') Unfortunately I can't see such a link on Gerald Prout's page, but the project is still underway: due for completion in 2016.

    From what it says there, it appears that you can order copies of the files if they haven't already been 'prepared for digitization'.
     
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    AnnB Editor in Chief who is Hot off the Press!

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    Is this any use Wendy - no mention of medals though

    Gloucester Journal 15th September 1917
    Mrs. Prout The Parks, Eastington, near Stonehouse, has been officially notified that her youngest son (Gerald) has been killed in action. At the commencement of the war he volunteered and joined the Canadian Mounted Rifles, but owing to ill-health was discharged. After an operation he again volunteered, and joined the Canadian Infantry. He went to Canada in 1908, returning twice to visit his parents. An announcement of his death appeared in the Canadian papers, and Mrs. Prout has received many letters of sympathy showing he was held in high esteem. Deceased was president of the Church Clover Leaf Club in Alberta.

    Ann
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Thank you Ann. Unsure if this has come to light before, we found some info. last year when project began,ie :-

    Found photo- find a Grave
    Enlistment paper Nov. 1915 at Calgary- 54 Batt.
    Adenac Military cemetery index. & how where & when he was killed (front line trenches nth of Courcelette)

    No mention of medals tho'.
     
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    Lone Pine Her Grandad would be so proud of her

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    Don't forget in WW1 there were NO campaign medals, (apart for the VCs, DCM etc.) I know for a fact that he would have been entitled to the British War Medal and the British Victory Medal and also the 1915 Star, (nicknamed Pip, Squeak and Wilfred after some cartoon characters in a national British newspaper) same as my Grandfather. If you need any help I have re-found my second Cuz in Canada (Mum's side of the family) I am sure she would like to help.
     
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