Melcombe Regis 1881

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    Looking at Anne C Savory's occupation, I can read 'From Consols +' and the next word is presumably 'stock' but what is the rest?

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    property?
     
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    it's not stock is it? it's 'other'

    Property is perfect, thank you
     
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    Robert Damon, Naturalist (crossed out), ??? (scribbled out), and is that Bird Stuffer in a second hand?
    Can anyone interpret the word(s) under the scribble?

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    Very tentatively I'd suggest Scientist, but as you say, it's in a different hand, and possibly the same person has then crossed it out and written Bird Stuffer - though I don't know how he'd have known.

    While looking for an image of the full page I happened across another Robert Damon (presumably his son?) 2 pages further on; his entry has Naturalist (not crossed out) with Bird Stuffer added later.
     
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    Robert Damon was quite famous :)
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    although it doesn’t mention stuffing birds as one of his accomplishments :D
     
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    Thank you :)

    Thank you :)

    That made me laugh out loud, I even applauded :D
     
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    Perhaps it was his guilty secret …..:D
     
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    I also found him on Wikipedia.. looks to me he was more in to shells and fossils not stuffing birds!
     
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    I think the enumerator was just being smart. Research has him as a naturalist, conchologist and geologist. He also came to Australia working in NSW and was an associate of Charles Darwin.
     
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    again, things crossed out for no good reason that I can see, would like opinions as to what lies beneath ...

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    I think it reads ‘J.P., M.D., St Andrews ……..? General Practitioner’. The 1861 census has him down as ‘St Andrews Graduate’, but I’m struggling to make the heavily crossed out word ‘Graduate’. In his obituary in the Weymouth papers (he died in April 1891) it mentions that he was a magistrate but that he didn’t
    take part in ‘many magisterial proceedings’.
     
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    Thank you Ann, that's what I thought too. I guess I will just have to put [illegible] for that mystery word :headbang:
     
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    I'm tempted by the thought that it might be 'University' - the last couple of letters are similar to those in 'Admiralty' three lines above, but looking a few pages either side I haven't spotted a 'U' to match the first letter.
     
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    I agree with AnnB.
     
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    That would certainly make sense
     
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    I wonder if anyone can help me out?

    I have come to the conclusion that Ancestry are missing part of the 1881 Melcombe Regis census. The first clue was that they have Districts 4, 5a, 5b, 6b, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11; but no District 6a

    I'm still working on 5a, so not too panicked but it is obviously playing on my mind. I don't know how to get to browse the census on FMP the way you can on Ancestry, so I can't see what districts they have. But I did do a simple search to see how many people there were in Melcombe Regis in 1881. I got 7,905 results; on FamilySearch I got 7,906; on Ancestry I get 7,435

    It's possible that 6a actually follows on from 6b (this is also the case with 5a and 5b); in which case 6a possibly starts partway through schedule 81 (32 St Mary St, the Dickes family) or else at schedule 82 (33 St Mary St)
     
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    I think you've got the join in the right place, but it is a bit odd. I've been looking at the images at FindMyPast and The Genealogist - FMP seems not to include the pages with the description of the district etc, but The Genealogist does.

    What is listed in the enumeration book as District 6 starts at RG11/2105 fo4 p1 (household schedules - 'admin' pages are on preceding folios), with the schedule numbers running from part way through 81 up to 179. The next part is listed as District 6(2), and starts at fo17 p1, with schedules 1 to part way through 81.

    The description of District 6 is at fo1, and 6(2) at fo14; the wording is the same, but they've been written separately.

    The population figures are at fo2 reverse and fo15 reverse, but on each of these the ones from the other part have been written underneath as well and the overall totals given. The figures are:
    6 has 191 males, 258 females, total 449
    6(2) has 151 males, 237 females, total 388

    The overall totals for the whole of District 6 (which are also written out on a rough-ish page immediately before fo1) are 342 males, 495 females, total 837.

    I hope that helps - but based on the figures I've found, I don't understand where Ancestry's discrepancy of about 470 comes from.
     
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    Thank you @arthurk
    thanks to your reference numbers I have now found that the missing part is under Weymouth
     
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    What is Ann's birthplace please?

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