Michael Cohen

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  1. WelchRegLost

    WelchRegLost Well-Known Member

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    Trying to locate Michael Cohen before his first Marriage

    28 July 1894 First Marriage age given as 36, Bachelor, Occupation Railway Outporter, Father Thomas Cohen

    20 Nov 1897 2nd Marriage age given as 38, Widow, Occupation Railway Outporter, Father Thomas Cohen

    1901 Census age Given as 44, Occupation Railway Outporter, Place of Birth Wolverhampton Staffordshire. RG 13/2681 16

    1911 Census age given as 60, Occupation Railway outporter, Place of birth Wolverhampton Staffordshire 369 1 131 piece 17053

    Death in Wolverhampton 1914 age given as 58.

    I just cannot find him before 1894
     
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    Just a quick use of FreeBMD (birth) alternative spellings gives Coin, Cain, Coyne and Cohne. Just a thought.
     
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    WelchRegLost Well-Known Member

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    Thank you
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    I could be really wide of the mark here, could this be them in 1861, they have messed the names up something awful.

    Castle Place, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
    RG09, Piece 1993, Folio 21, Page 35

    Thomas Cronan, Head, Married, 32, 1829, Labourer, Ireland
    Caroline Cronan, Wife, Married, 30, 1831, Ireland
    Michell Cronan, Son, 5 1856, Staffordshire, Wolverhampton
    Mary Cronan, Daughter, 1, 1860, Staffordshire, Wolverhampton
    Charles Cacace, Brother, Unmarried, 35, 1826, Labourer, Ireland
    Sarah Cacace, Mother, Widow, 60, 1801, Ireland
    Michael Moya, Boarder, Unmarried, 38, 1823, Labourer, Ireland

    Looking at the original image Michell looks like Michael to me.
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    because of the mixture of spellings of the surname I can't find a birth for Michael but I think this is Mary born 1860

    CRONAN, MARY
    Mother's maiden name: KENAHAN
    1860 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 470
     
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    Thank you Chimp that has given me something to look into more as it is far more than I have found previously
     
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    I make this out to be Corcoran
    and i read Thomas' wife as Catherine not Caroline
     
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    That is interesting as one of the many family folk lore about Michael Cohen is his surname was altered when he joined the army as the officer taking the attestation couldn't understand his accent. But how you would go from Corcoron to Cohen I'm not sure.
     
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  8. MollyMay

    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    Is this the same family in 1871?
    RG10/3008/97/8 - Spring Road Sedgley, Dudley, Staffs.
     
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    If on FMP you put Cronan as birth surname, Mothers MMN Kenahan with variable ticked, District Wolverhampton, you get Mary 1860 as we know and also get an Ann 1862,MMN Keenan, could be the same family and it just depends on how the registrar thought they heard the name pronounced.
     
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    There is a baptism for an Ann Cronin at Saint Mary and John Catholic church in 1862 With Father John and mother Ella Keenan, if my reading of latin names is correct, which possibly negates Ann
     
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    It is certainly a possibility that warrants further investigation
     
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    Spring Road Sedgley is approx 3 miles from where the family Chimp found lived in 1861 so a strong possibility for being the same family.
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Freebmd has a birth for a Michael Careghan 1855 Wolverhampton 6b 446.
    Careghan certainly doesn’t morph into Cohen but with a bit of imagination it could to Corcoran.
    I haven’t found anything else for this fellow, no death, marriage or census
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Just burnt the potatoes looking for Michael.....:oops:
     
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    GRO gives mothers maiden name as Mulroy, A Mary Mulroy married a Thomas Craven in Bilston 1853. Is that stretching it a bit too far with the name morphing?
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    I had to track down Bliston and what do you know.....Wolverhampton.
    If someone could have a look at the original 1861 census (I can’t) I could easily see CRAVEN transcribed as CRONIN.
    BUT......where does the name CAREGHAN fit in if Mum was Mulroy and Dad was Craven?
     
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    Interestingly ANC have the surname as Ceraran and the wife as Catherin

    Thomas Cohen.JPG
     
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    gillyflower Always caring about others

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    It is a wonder we find anyone!.:headbang: :)
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    I do believe that it could be Craven....Cravan. The third letter looks to me like an a because it ain’t an o.
     
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