Michael Cripps Collier

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  1. D Collier

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    Can anyone help me with the children of Michael Cripps Collier of Witney? Although it's his son Frederick John Collier who was born in 1837 I am really interested in.

    Derek Collier
     
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    1841 census
    Sub-registration district: Witney
    Piece 872
    Book 31
    Folio 42
    Page number 13
     
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    1851 census HO107/1731/463/20 - High Street, Witney

    Michael Collier age 49 flax dresser employing 5 men born Witney
    Jane wife age confectioner born Bamford Oxfordshire
    Jane A daughter age 11 born Witney
    Mary Cripps aunt single age 91 born Witney
    Martha Cripps aunt widow age 84 born Witney
    plus a house servant

    Baptisms in Witney
    Elizabeth 18/8/1826 Michael's occ - Baker
    Frederick 8/2/1832 occ -Flax Dresser
    Michael Frederick 27/6/1837 occ - Baker
    Jane Angel 6/9/1839 occ - pastry cook

    There is a marriage of Michael Collier to Jane Angell St Mary Witney 16/11/1825 by licence.
    Witnesses Michael Cripps, Martha Cripps

    Michael Cripps Collier was baptised at St Mary Witney 27/6/1802
    son of William and Deborah Collier
     
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    Banbury Guardian 18 December 1851
    December 16th - In High Street, Witney, at the house of Mr. Michael Collier, in her 85th year, Martha, widow of the late Michael Cripps, of this town.
     
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    I think from what I can find myself it appears Frederick John Collier son of Michael and Jane is the famous Frederick Collier of Collier and Plucknett of Warwick, furniture makers. He would be my 1st cousin 4 times removed.
     
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    1881 Census he is a retired Cabinet Manufacturer in Warwickshire aged 43.
    Registration district: Warwick
    ED, institution, or vessel: 6
    Piece: 3097
    Folio: 65
    Page number: 16
     
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    Hello Andrew. Thank you for the information. It looks as if Frederick had the money while James Plucknett had the knowhow. Still to retire at 43 wasn't bad for those days. I see they were by Royal Appointment to Her Majesty too.
     
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    TILT. I now find that Frederick John Collier was the son of James Collier of Witney and not the son of Michael.
     
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    James Collier the butcher, presumably. James is the father's name on Frederick's marriage to Amelia.

    It seems to be a local name. A few Colliers scattered up Witney High Street. Have you noticed that even the 1841 census enumerator is called Collier?
     
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    So, is this Frederick's parent's marriage
    Oxford Journal 6th March 1824
    On the 2nd inst. was married at Witney, Mr James Collier, butcher, etc., to Miss Hannah Druce of Mount Pleasant.
     
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    We were in Witney for hundreds of years. My family were in the High Street too.
     
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    Yes it is.
     
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    Have you looked for any Wills relating to your family? There seem to be various COLLIER Oxfordshire Wills on the National Probate Calendar: for example one for a James COLLIER, Gentleman, of Newland Coggs near Witney, Gentleman, who died on 3 November 1876 and one for a Frederick COLLIER of Witney, Draper, who died on 3 September 1875. If any of them relate to your family, obtaining copies of them could provide you with valuable information.

    Going further back, there are several PCC Wills, available to view via Ancestry, for COLLIERs of Witney ranging datewise from a Thomas COLLIER in 1704 to a Jane COLLIER, spinster, in 1778. Another avenue to explore is the Oxfordshire Wills category on FindmyPast.

    Given that the James COLLIER who married Hannah DRUCE in 1824 was a Butcher, there is an Apprenticeship Indenture record dated 17 March 1782 wherein an Edward COLLIER of Witney, Butcher, took on as apprentice a Thos S GODFREY. So, could this Edward COLLIER be related in some way.

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    There's also a name index to Oxfordshire wills, provided by the Oxfordshire FHS. There are indexes of both testators and other people named, though as it's a volunteer project based on donated information not all wills are included - it's a work in progress.

    It can be found at
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    http://wills.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/
     
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