Occupation?

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  1. MollyMay

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    Can I have some thoughts on the occupation on this marriage cert please.
    I have included a bigger sample so as you can see more of the same handwriting.
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    I know what his occupation was but am not sure what this says

    Thank you
     
  2. Steve Bumstead

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    I can see 'traveller'
     
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    Traveller?
     
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    Thank you both.

    That is what I thought too, the odd thing is he was a school teacher :rolleyes:
     
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    And it’s traveller from me too :)
     
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    Could he be a replacement teacher, travelling from school to school as required?
     
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    Good thought, I do not have him prior to this (born Sligo ireland), but in 1901 and 1911 he is in the same area of Surrey, at different addresses.
    1911 states - assistant schoolmaster Kingston upon Thames municipal public secondary school
     
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    Yes I saw traveller too but Mike might have hit on a good point
     
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    Ahem!
    The phrase "clutching at straws" comes to mind (or "changing the facts to fit")?

    I too see "Traveller" - perhaps a clerical error? (I've done it myself, tired and not concentrating properly :oops:)
    OR
    The entry appears to have been overwritten in a darker ink - perhaps it was originally "Teacher" and was misread?
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    Perhaps he got tired of teaching and became a Traveller (as in Sales Rep)?

    Jane
     
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    I may be wrong but I think it's the writing on the back of the page that can be seen. I've inverted the colours and nothing shows as being underneath.

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    I tried so hard to make the word read teacher, but I couldn't.
    As he was a teacher in 1901 (marriage 1896) and 1911 he could have taken up teaching after getting married - a more settled life with a new wife and baby on the way.

    Thanks @Sis
     
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    I think it is written over a copy of a photo copy, of a photo copy. Even the margins have been redrawn. So under all those copies it could be teacher.
     
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    It looks like traveller. I have been trying to read the letters behind traveller and the number 8.
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    There is actually a s under the r on the end of traveller and under bachelor are two dotted letters so heaven only knows what it has been written over........
     
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    On greatest magnification and inverting colours you can see the shadowing is the ink from the following page
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    this is the occupation on the marriage on the next page
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    This is Richard's

    Even the page does not line up as you can see from the heading over Jeweller

    I am satisfied (for whatever reason) the entry does say traveller

    Thanks everyone for your input.
     
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    Sorry, MM.
    Didn't mean to cause upset.
    This hole I'm digging is getting deeper ...

    Hangs head in shame :oops:

    Jane
     
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    It's always worth mentioning anything you see, I reckon.:)
     
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    I see it as traveller.
     
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    You didn't cause any upset{-(^^)-}, I value any input. Sometimes changing the facts to fit does get results, it was what I was trying to do with the word traveller and teachero_O the first thought I had when I saw traveller was 1890's social profiling, as he was Irish;):D, it could even have been an accent problem if he had a pronounced brogue. I have entered what is written and the occupation from the 1901 & 1911 census too.
     
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    I've found a few bits in the papers mentioning Richard, in the Surrey Advertiser of the 19th July 1913, he is mentioned in an article about Tiffin School Sports Day
    The secretarial duties in connection with the sports were carried out by Mr R. T. Thompson, who was assisted in the carrying out of the various arrangements by masters and many friends of the school.

    He was mentioned in another article about Sports Day at Tiffin school in the paper of the 15th July 1914 as "the Hon Secretary."

    Then I found this - the Sligo paper had far more information than the Surrey ones.

    Sligo Independent 14th July 1917
    We are very sorry to learn that definite information has now been received that Lieutenant R. S. Thompson, who was gazetted to the 18th London Regiment last January, has been killed in action. He was the elder son of Lieutenant R. T. and Mrs Thompson of 28, Auckland-terrace, Kingston, and grandson of the late Mr John Thompson, Sligo, the former being a well known and popular master, of Tiffin Boys’ School. He was also a nephew of Miss Thompson, Chapel Street, Sligo, with whom the deepest sympathy is felt in the loss of such a gallant friend. His father, who is serving with the Durham Light Infantry, having previously been an instructor with the Artists’ Rifles, is at present on special leave from France, and had been home only twenty four hours, when the official notification was received to the effect that his son was missing, believed killed. Writing to Mrs Thompson, Second Lieutenant Maurice L. Harper now states that on June 16 he and Second Lieutenant Thompson had reached the second German line north-west of Bullecourt, and the deceased was reorganising his men when he when he was hit by a sniper, death being quite painless and instantaneous. Second Lieutenant Thompson was educated at Tiffin School, and was always prominent for his athletic ability and fine sportsmanship. He captained the cricket eleven and led the football team to many victories, notably in the Chapman Cup competition, and excelled in many other field sports, in addition to being an enthusiastic swimmer and oarsman. Leaving School, he obtained an appointment in the London County and Westminster Bank, and was at the Camberwell branch when he enlisted is the Artists’ Rifles in January, 1916, being then eighteen. He was wounded slightly a few weeks ago, but had recovered from that injury.

    Richard was still being mentioned in connection with Tiffin School in 1929.




     

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