Off to America!

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  1. Dogsday

    Dogsday Well-Known Member

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    I seem to have no success with searching emigration & passenger lists for family members, I now have Thomas Reed b.1817 who emigrated with wife Agnes & 3 children in 1854 to Wisconsin USA, Thomas was a stone mason but they farmed when they arrived, I cannot find any reference to them on ships, so I am presuming they flew or swam :eek:
     
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    Where were the family living before they emigrated?
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    I entertained several Thomas Reeds today but none mentioned a wife nor an Agnes. None were seen to go to Wisconsin either. .-sorry. Have you looked in Mersey Times website. Lots of newsy items there.
     
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    They were living with Agnes's parents in Barton-on-Irwell Lancashire in 1851 census, by the US Wisconsin state census of 1855 they were in Oregon, Dane, Wisconsin.
     
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    GrannyBarb Custodian of the Family Accounts

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    Did you check ports in Canada? Technically they would not be immigrants until they crossed into U.S.
    I can't look any right now. Ancestry has the St Albans border crossing records.
     
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    I've had another go at searching on Ancestry but no joy I'm afraid :(
     
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    Starts too late for my lot :(
     
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    GrannyBarb Custodian of the Family Accounts

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    Oops! Sorry about that. :oops: I tried looking for Thomas and Agnes in later census reports to see if there was a date of immigration. No luck on that, except that in 1870, they are still in Dane County, WI - three children in household, all born in WI. Findagrave has them buried in Madison, WI, both died in 1871. The place of birth looks off, though. I'm too distracted to really dig in on this one. Do you know if Thomas became naturalized citizens - or any of the older kids? If so, we might find the records somewhere, some how.
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    They died two days apart :(
    Married in Manchester in 1837. Are you sure they emigrated in 1854?
     
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    Yes Ladies, I have all that information, son George's Obituary states 1854 for emigration, I know they were all definitely in Manchester in 1851, & in Dane in 1855, never mind, thought there might be a passenger list somewhere or a naturalization cert for any of them, so far no luck so I will just keep delving, thanks anyway.
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    1854 is one year too early for Castle Garden as it opened in 1855, sadly. :(
    Found marriages for their girls though :)
     
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    Thanks Sue, I have the marriages, it was just the emigration details that are missing for this family.
     
  13. Joan W

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    Hello. I'm new to this website, but I found your post when searching for definitive facts about my ancestors. Thomas Reed was my great-great grandfather. Based on the Cheshire, Englands records that I've traced. it looks like he was baptized in Ince, Cheshire on the 16th of February, 1817. I suspect that he was born several months earlier, in 1816, based on his age at the time of his death in 1871 in Dane County, Wisconsin. At the time of his christening, his last name was spelled "Read." His father was George Read, a farmer, and his mother's maiden name might have been Margaret White. He married Agnes Henshaw, daughter of Peter Henshaw, on the 6th of August, 1837. His occupation was listed as "laborer." Both he and Agnes were illiterate (they signed the marriage register with an "x," which could account for the discrepancy in the spelling of their last name.

    I don't have any sources for information about their emigration to America. I'd love to find out more.
     
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    Welcome aboard, Joan
     
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    Welcome aboard JoanC|:-)
     
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    Hi there. I did a separate search of the New York Passenger and Crew lists for Agnes Reed (Thomas Reed's wife) and I found her. She arrived in New York on the 9th of November 1853 from Liverpool. The ship's name was William Tapscott. They must have separated the men and women when they arrived, because she is listed in the rolls with her 3 daughters (Margaret, age 16; Alice, age 8; and the baby Agnes, age 1). Their final destination was listed as "Chichago." So far, I haven't found Thomas or their son George, who would have been 11 or 12 at the time. This might help to fill in the gap, and maybe we can still find Thomas and George.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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  18. Dogsday

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    Hi Joan, welcome, you are correct with the Mother of Thomas b.1817. Magaret White, the spelling of the surname Read has many alternatives, Reed, Read, Reid & Reade.

    George b.1785. & Margaret b.1788. had 14 children between 1807 & 1831 all born Ince Cheshire

    Thomas b.1817, is your 2nd great grandfather, his brother Samuel b.1815 is mine.

    I see you have managed to find Agnes in the passenger list, well done.

    George b.1840 did emigrate in 1854 & I'm wondering if he & his Father traveled separately, George would have been 13-14 years old so it's very possible.

    In the census of 1851 the family were staying with Agnes's parents in Manchester & Thomas's occupation was stone mason, son George was also listed as a mason, (Father taught son).

    I think you will know that Thomas & Agnes had 3 more children in USA Winneford, John & Samuel Henry
     
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