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  1. Daft Bat

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    This is what was written and the date is about 1824.

    I can make out some words but would be grateful for knowing what the complete label says.

    Nothing else to compare the writing with, sadly. :(

    Thank you. :)
     
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    Londoner Will always roll up her sleeves and dig around

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    I think it says
    Thomas Bache of Co.... Cousin to the late John Dade, whose son .. At age 14 died in his T B s hands
    .. Are bits I'm not sure about. A few more commas would make it more readable.
     
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    Thank you. :) It's a bit of a poser! :headbang:
     
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    There is Thomas Bache 1795-1843 and English cricketer.
     
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    Ooh! Where? :D
     
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    Born Hertfordshire played for Marylebone Cricket Club. Birth from Family Search cricket info from Wiki.
    It looks to me that the initials TB stand for Thomas Bache.
     
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    Thomas Bache of County ? To the last John Dade whose son ? 14......
    If it is the cricketer then this could be something to do with a that.
    His cricket career ended in 1822. Could it be something to do with county cricket.
    I’m sure it says ‘son’ looks more like stat (statistic) 14
     
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    Could that be a badly written BACHE?
     
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    Sorry, not sure it says son. More like stat.
     
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    I agree.
     
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    My best guess - Thomas Bache of County cousin to the late John Bache, whose son etat (Latin for aged) 14 who died in his T.B.s Home?

    Janet
     
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    Haven't found TB in 1841 yet, a few possibles but I can't check on this machine. However his death was registered in 1943 in Nothampton.
     
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    Thomas Bache, the cricketer, had the middle name of Ogle. From the Northampton Mercury of the 8th April 1843
    On the 1st instant, at the Pomfret Arms Towcester, Thomas Ogle Bache, Esq., of Rickmansworth, Herts, aged 47. He had been hunting with Lord Southampton's hounds, and complained of being ill on his return, and about half-past one o'clock on Saturday morning he died of apoplexy. A coroner's inquest was held on the afternoon of Saturday, before R. Weston. Esq., Brackley, and the jury returned a verdict of Apoplexy.'
     
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    Thank you! :)
     
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    I read it as Coventry rather than County.
     
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    Thomas Ogle Bache was baptised 1 July 1795 at St Mary's Watford, son of Humphrey and Mary (nee wood) who married 8 Mar 1792.
    Humphrey was the Son of John Bache whose will (1786) mentions children Elizabeth, Sarah Joan and William all under 25 and sons John and Humphrey. John had a brother, also Humphrey whose will (1794) mentions all the above children except Joan. I haven't yet found any more about the younger John,whose child must have been the one who died age 14
     
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    HO107 Piece: 438 / 20 / 33 Page: 2
    this looks like Thomas in 1841 in Rickmansworth, Micklefield Hall
     
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    this John seems to have married a Mary and had children Ann 1795, John 1797, Richard 1798 at Abbotts Langley. not much detail on FS and very little at Ancestry
     
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    Thank you all. I shall go away and try to get my head round all of this.

    Will probably be back.... :rolleyes:
     
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