Orlando Charles Venner

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  1. Daft Bat

    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    Welcome @BrendanW :)

    @Genie1 who originally posted the query, is regularly on the forum and so should see your response soon. :)
     
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    Genie1 Well-Known Member

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    Good to hear from you.
    Orlando was a mystery and the only one I couldn't be certain of.
    I am in contact with another family member and will let them know.
    I have gone back to the 1700s with the Venner family.
     
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  3. BrendanW

    BrendanW New Member

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    I have traced back to one gentleman called Nicholas Venner (my 11x great grandfather) born in abt. 1530 in Devon who was the grandfather of Thomas Venner who was a rebel and tried to unsuccessfully overthrow Oliver Cromwell in 1657. This would make Orlando distant cousins of him but we can never be sure.
     
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    I have Jessie as a sister to Orlando and she was born 1869 at Lezant. Jessie married twice. To William Henry Saunders and Phillip Harris.
    I haven't a Selina but Jessie has sisters Leah and Georgina.
    Their brother Sidney lived in Ireland.
     
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    BrendanW New Member

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    Yes, I have the same Jessie. 'Selina J' was used on the 1881 cenus when she was a domestic servant. I don't know if this was just what they called her but it was Jessie on her baptism and birth record.
     
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    Hi everyone,
    I've recieved some pictures of some of Orlando's children Dora, Emmaline and my great grandmother Winifred.
     

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    Findem The Fearless One

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    If he went AWOL from the army, calling himself and family Smith might be a good idea along with a change of location. :)
     
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    Absolutely, I was having a discussion with my great aunt about him the other day. Apparently Eliza and him never got married because he would need an official document of his birth but of course, he went AWOL so he couldn't because his surname on the certificate would be Venner. Also Smith is a common name and Brighton is a big town, so he clearly thought it through. We were also saying that his middle name was Ronald and if you rearrange the letters, it makes Orlando, you just need to add an extra O so we think that's where he may of got his name/nickname from. :)
     
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    Genie1 Well-Known Member

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    It was good to see the photographs of the Venner's not having any here.
    It does seem as if he used the name Ronald and added the other O as a nod to his name.
    The problem now which name to use in the tree for Orlando after he had children.. Venner or Smith name to go into the tree?
     
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  10. Archie's Mum

    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Why not Venner/Smith? For those that come after you it wont be so confusing.
     
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    That's what I have done, I have used,
    Charles "Orlando" Ronald Venner/ Smith
     
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    Is there a photograph of Orlando anywhere or did he avoid having a photograph taken?
     

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