Osmington 1871

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    What does it say after 'Domestic Servant out of (a?) ...' I know it means she is out of work/job/employ/position/situation but what does it actually say, it doesn't seem to be any of these words

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    if anyone wants to look up the original it is Mary E Elford, RG10/1999/96/2
     
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    Could it be out of a home?
     
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    I thought about that, it does seem to begin with H. In that case does it simply mean she doesn't sleep at her employer's rather than she is out of work?
     
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    I have seen "Domestic Servant Out of Place" before now. Any good?
     
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    I think it could be that, thanks Jan :)

    I knew there was another word, it just kept failing to occur to me :rolleyes:
     
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    It took me a while to remember it as well! :D
     
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    Any idea of this place-name within the hamlet of Upton, in the parish of Osmington, I've had a look at a map and can't work it out

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    Upton Bank?
     
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    Bank was my first thought but the first example seems to be 'Br-' and then I saw the second and it looked more like 'Ma-'

    So I've considered Brank, Brant, and Marsh, but will probably end up with my first consideration ...
     
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    If you read to the end of this about Upton Fort, Osmington, you will find mention of Brant Cottage and Little Brant :)
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    https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1021435
     
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    oh well, my transcription is currently 'Upton Brant?' so I'll just remove the question mark and be on my way ...

    Thanks :D
     
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    Upton Brant.
     
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    This is the occupation of William F Tregarthen, born c 1832 St Marys, Cornwall (Scilly)

    I can read 'Without Cure of Souls, Her Majesty's Inspector of Schools...' but what are the last two words?

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    If you want to search for him, Ancestry have the surname as Legarthan
     
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    And while you are puzzling over that, what exactly is the name of his abode?

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    The Olives?
     
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    If it helps in 1861 he was Curate of Osmington and in 1881 he described as HMSS (Boot)? That helped didnt it?
     
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    E??clerical Department is my guess.

    The other one FMP has it as The Elms and I'm inclined to agree.
     
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    That'd work ;)
    William F Tregarthen was an Inspector of schools so I guess H M S S would have something to do with Her/His Majesty's Schools ????
     
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    From thepeerage.com we find that William Francis Tregarthen married Harriet Fonblanque Phillips daughter of Sir James Evans Phillips and Mary Anne Bickley. It just has William as a school inspector.
     
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    Yes. Something ?????clerical Department which I think as he was a Rev it could be something to do with an inspector of religious studies at schools.
     
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