Pasley family in India 18/19th centuries

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  1. Archie's Mum

    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Hello All,
    I am querying the wife of George Boles Pasley. B 1831. I have found a marriage, Dec. 1855 between George Boles Pasley and Ellen Ann Nicholl in Calcutta. This was on Find My Past.
    This is different to Cecilia. Was she another spouse?
    Any help appreciated,
    Adieu, Anne aka Pierre
     
  3. David Tuson

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    Hello Ann

    I've got his marriage as 12 December 1855 in Benares, Bengal (sourced from the papers on FIBIS)

    You probably have this information as well but just in case you haven't here is all that I have.............


    Went back to India arriving on 5th December 1851


    On 1/5/1866 he was recorded as a Magistrate & Collector at Ghazeepore in the Bengal Civil Service after 15 years service.

    1871 census
    RG10/3/63/46
    Reg.District - Kensington, Middlesex
    Address - Cornwall Road, Paddington
    With George was his wife Ellen (1834) and
    Amelia his mother
    Ann Nichol his mother-in-law
    Amelia his sister, and
    Jane Hart, Mary Petrie and Emma Pike all servants

    1881 census

    RG11/1099/81/57
    Reg.District - Sussex
    With George was his wife Ellen (1834) and
    Thomas Nichol his nephew, aged 17 born in the East Indies
    And three servants

    1891 census

    George was recorded in the Brighton registration district, sub-district The Palace

    Regards David
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    You probably have it but I have come across a wonderful photo of Philip Kennedy Scott Pasley taken 1885, Otago, New Zealand. Information on this and a bit of your Pasley family history on bygonedaysphotography.blogspot.com.au. I have saved the link if you would like it.
     
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    Information on a geni tree has Cecelia as the wife of Gilbert James Pasley 1834 the brother of George Boles Pasley1831
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    How lovely, another Anne among us.
    {-(^^)-}Hang onto Pierre also, he is important.
     
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    Thankyou David, I found them today, now I feel guilty.
    Sue, it is a great picture. Just love finding a photo from long ago.
    I think Cecilia is Gilbert James' 2nd wife. His 1st being Helena Rosa Barlow.
    I must see why and when she died.
    Adieu, Pierre
     
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    Those old pictures certainly bring family stories to life and I enjoy finding them.

    A word of caution about postings about the Pasley family on the web. There are some errors that have been replicated as other researchers take those family trees as gospel. I downloaded everything I could find and spent days/hours poring over the pages, drawing relationship charts, identifying the inconsistencies and then setting out to prove my interpretations.
    I'm not for a moment claiming my results are accurate and as such I will not 'publish' anything about the Pasleys. But I am more than happy to send information direct to people and then it is up to them to perform their own verification.
    In the past couple of months I have been transcribing some census schedule images for FreeCEN (as a volunteer). Occasionally I will check those schedules against the commercial sites I have been amazed at some of their transcriptions. The lesson I have learnt is that I will never just get a transcription in future - I'll always get the image.

    David
     
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    Hello David,
    Now I am nervous! I have tried to find all corresponding papers vouching for the information I have and seeing that I am researching for my friend I would hate to think I was leading her down the garden path.
    Find my past has been excellent regarding any Indian information.
    I will plod on and check everything I can. I do agree with you re other researchers incorrect info - unfortunately we are all ever so hopeful
    Many thanks, Pierre
     
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    David, regarding Eliza Thomson who married Robert Charles Pasley. I have much information about her from after her marriage but I am not sure how to spell her maiden name and when and where she was born.
    Any help appreciated. Pierre
     
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    Hello Anne
    Robert's marriage was found on the NZ BMD site and it simply lists her name as you have recorded it. Maybe that site has more details - I'll have a look for you.
    Also have you looked at Papers Past web site - contains millions of newspaper entries. Also if you go onto the fIBIS site you can access the newspapers section there. If you do go onto that site and find anything that is restricted to members just email me - I am a member!
    Also if you want I'd be very happy to compare your research with mine if you want. The Pasley family is only an off-shoot of our Tuson family but we have carried out lots of detailed research and have got many certificates proving our work.
    Regards
    David
     
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    Hi David,
    Great ideas and I will cover the papers next week. We can but hope.
    Do not be surprised if I am in contact next week.
    It is strange but a researcher has Robert Charles born in India, I have found his baptism In Somerset. Cannot locate a B/C.
    Thanks, Anne
     
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    Hopefully not many worries for you.
    1. Date and place of death for Helena Rose Barlow.
    2. Date of marriage between Cecilia and Gilbert.
    3. Have been through the Papers Past but Eliza did not show up. Neither did her father. They are still a mystery.
    Happy Anzac Day full of memories.
    Anne
     
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  14. David Tuson

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    Hello Anne

    Helena died in Hastings, Sussex in March quarter 1944 (Ref 2b 41)

    Cecilia and Gilbert married 26 July 1854 in Berhampore, India

    Our house overlooks a cenotaph in Paeroa. The cenotaph used to change colours every few seconds at night but last year the colour was fixed at red to commemorate 100 years - it is still red and a poignant reminder each night of the sacrifices made so many years ago.

    David
     
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    Hi David,
    Have noted the info you sent. Thankyou.
    I have almost finished the folder of Pasley family for my friend and have made the decision to enter George as1762-1798 and Anna as 1779.
    I was torn whether to continue with the old dates but decided your research was thorough and we will keep our fingers crossed.
    I have been ploughing through the Indian Papers today but so far nothing I did not know.
    It only remains as to whether I put Gilbert 1731 at the top of the tree.
    Take care, Anne
     
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    Hello Anne
    If you do put Gilbert at the top of the tree you will potentially open up another "Pandora's Box" as Gilbert's father sired some famous sons and daughters and your folder would multiply ten-fold.

    Just out of interest, more information on Robert and Eliza's marriage can be purchased from the NZ BMD site - it costs $NZ26.40.

    Have a great day
    David
     
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    Hi David
    I have decided today to admit I have gone as far as I could for my friend.
    I have an enormous amount of research for her so I do not think she will be disappointed.
    "Pandora's Box" - I will put it all in my friends lap and maybe in the future there will be more accurate research completed.
    Thankyou to all my helpers - I will miss you.
    Adieu, Pierre
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Yes Anne, we can always use more keen eyes in searches or even a muffin mix if you will,- just mention a rellie so it still stays genealogical :D
     
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    Hi All,
    Here I am again already! I was excited to find this morning the will of Ann -not Anna, Pasley. Leaving her goods to Gilbert John so we know she was alive in1829. Sad that George died in 1798. I wondered about Ann's signature which I presume she may not have written. But on the other hand perhaps she had a good schooling.
    I guess I have not finished my research yet.
    Anne
     

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