I finally found a marriage for my Sarah Honeybun and am now knee-deep in Harrises Sarah having married William HARRIS on 4 Sep 1833 in Chard, Somerset, had seven children that I know of ... Job (1835-1918), Daniel (1836-?), James (1838-?), John William (1840-?), Samuel (1844-1902), Hannah (1847-1923), and Ruth Susan (1850-1945) all born in Chard it's Ruth's children that I am focusing on for now, she's mainly known as Susan btw Ruth Susan Harris married Reuben PINNEY in Tatworth, Chard on 22 Oct 1871; on the 1911 census in Bridport, Dorset she claims 9 children, 6 died, 3 still living The 3 still living are Annie Harris Pinney (1872-1957), Percy James William Pinney (1875-1947), and Bessie Pinney (1880-unknown) Using the GRO online index and baptism records I have: 1. Annie Harris 2. Maggie Hannah (Mar 1874- Mar 1875) 3. Percy James William 4. Rice Barn (Dec 1877-? 5. William Bar(r)on (abt 1878-Jun 1878) 6. Bessie 7. John William (Sep 1882- Mar 1883) 8. William or Willie (Mar 1884-Mar 1885) Now thinking Rice Barn must be a transcription of some spectacularly bad writing, I guess given the dates he's actually the same child as William Bar(r)on. So I probably only have 7 children here, although it looks a bit like 8. The first 3 children are born in Chard, "Rice Barn" was registered in Beaminster RD, William Bar(r)on death registered in Bridport, where subsequent children were also registered. I cannot find another 2 children. Pinney often occurs as Penney; Bessie's birth for example is registered as Penny Just wondered if anyone else fancies a go ... and Opinions please re: "Rice Barn", should I get the birth cert? or would that be a colossal waste of time
Curiosity would get the better of me and I would get the certificate. It would be interesting to see what it would throw up.
This won't help with Rice barn but this Dorset site has the surname Rice in it. Maybe the name Rice was a family name. https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~fordingtondorset/genealogy/Files2/MarriagesHTPart3.html
Percy James William and William Baron were baptised on 15/5/1878 in Bridport, source FS on FMP. so if William Baron is not Rice Barn, then he had to be born 1876. I wonder if Rich(ard) Baron has been mangled on registration, and then they decided to call him William. I would think they are one and the same child whatever the name.
I have Rice Barn's birth certificate now, and while it definitely does say Rice Barn or maybe Riee Barn I think it is perhaps meant to be Reuben -- though this is written correctly for his father -- so still not sure
I guess the only way to clear this up is to get a look at the Beaminster returns to the GRO (I think you can, but do not know how, or what the cost might be), as the GRO cert does appear to say Rice Barn
I can order from the Dorset Council website (a certificate costs £11) but since the name is in dispute and that is required information I am not sure how best to proceed. I can ask the Dorset History Centre to search the records but that costs £18
Could you give the council people a ring and explain the dilemma? As you have the GRO cert you have all the details, so they should be able to locate it fairly easily. It has t be worth a try.
To make sure I was on the right track I got Rice from the GRO GRO PINNEY, RICE BARN HARRIS GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in BEAMINSTER Volume 05A Page 380; And for William? How about: PINNELL, WILLIE - GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in BARTON REGIS Volume 06A Page 91; since people were so keen on giving this ridiculous baby name to males who would inevitably grow up! And PS: Are your Pinneys part of this guy's family? PINNEY, John Frederick, MP (1719-62), of Racedown, nr. Bridport, Dorset. He inherited a huge estate in the West Indies via his mother and grandfather. His mother was Mary Helme daughter and heir of Maj. William Helme of Antigua and Nevis.
I have no idea, it's the mother of the family that I am related to, not sure I want to trace so far back on the off-chance. It's an interesting bit of info though!
