Possible GRO-FREEBMD error

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  1. Ma-dotcom

    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Today I found on the Army papers of a third cousin x 1 rem'd, the birth & Baptism & death dates of his children.
    The first son b.May 1905. I cannot find him on either GRO or FreeBMD. One child of his name is entered with mother's name of "Cottages", but I cannot find a marriage to a person of that name for the years required. ..I expected the mother's name to be Martin/ Marten. marriage 1903 Dorchester.

    Can anyone else find him please? Or is it an error which I can report to GRO?

    Edward A.V. Rogers.JPG

    His 3 initials are also on his Father's death certificate.
    Civil registration
    Edward Albert V Rogers
    Birth- 04/1905 Woolwich London=GRO- Mmn "Cottages"
     
  2. Archie's Mum

    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Did you notice that his records have him as born 28 June 1900, Holloway, London.?
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Oops sorry. That’s Albert Edward Victor Rogers. :oops:
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Who-What-where?
    Sorry not meant to sound rude. Which records Sue? I've not for for E A V other than his presence at father's death.
    I hadn't looked into children's births yet other than those listed in Frederick's Army papers.
    Your new post arrives,.....
    Oh I see, don't you just love these similar names. The Family traveled as one child died in Dilkusha in Lucknow, India while Frederick was in the army.
    I'm wondering now if, like Arthur's Scottish family they registered his birth late somewhere.
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Sorry bout that. Got carried away. :rolleyes:
     
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    kernowmaid Well-Known Member

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    freebmd:
    upload_2018-11-13_7-51-57.png
    GRO:
    upload_2018-11-13_7-53-4.png

    Have I misunderstood the question? :oops:
    The birth is registered - just not the expected mmn.

    Jane
     
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    Frederick James Rogers, age 29, single, father: Henry George Rogers
    Mary Louise Martin, age 23, Single
    Marriage: 9th April 1903, St. George's, Fordington, Dorset, England

    The baptism for E A V Rogers gives the address as 16 Cambridge Cottage, E Block

    Is it possible that when the birth was entered the name of the place (Cottage) was entered instead of the mother's maiden name?

    Mistakes are made. I have an aunt who according to the GRO married George J James, in fact she married George J Willis.
     
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  8. MollyMay

    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    I wonder if the address (they could have lived in ??? cottages) has been entered in the wrong space.

    I see Chimp has the same idea with good proof too:D
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Exactly my problem Jane.
    That's rather what I think may have happened Chimp.:)
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    I shall of-course delve further with these people mayhap something will come to light in their later years. Meanwhile it's plumping up my family tree :0 One which I had sadly neglected.
    Thank you all for delving in.
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    You can ask them to check it but they can take ages.
     
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    mugwortismy cat Tenacious to the End!

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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Thank you Christel. I did once query a birth on GRO & they replied very quickly to inform me that it was there, just not a I had expected. Don't now remember who it was for. I'll try the registrar first.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    What a good morning it is. Yesterday afternoon I finally managed to send email to the above 'Registrar'. This morning a lovely reply from the 'Registrar Technical Officer'. she had picked up my email- checked it out & found that the word 'cottages' had in fact been used as the Mother's maiden name.
    She will notify the General Register Office & enquire about the possibility of an amendment to the relevant index reference.

    What a speedy & gracious reply.

    Thankyou@Sis for the tip.
     
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    Result! :D
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Apologies @mugwortismy cat . Sorry Christel, for mixing your name entirely. Too early for my brain to work past excitement of the post. Here's the result of not pushing the right button this morning :(
     
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    As I think I may have mentioned before, I had a similar problem with a registration where the mother registered the birth and when asked 'formerly?' she gave her former place of residence / her birthplace, instead of her former surname. That one also took a bit of figuring out.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    It certainly doesn't help when the surname is not unusual. Had I not seen the Father's army papers I would have known nothing of this cousin. :)
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Finally remembered to check again on this lad's birth registration. Mother's name now corrected. All's right in that wee corner of my world, hoping it was the same for that family. :D
     
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