Postpartum Depression ?

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  1. Ma-dotcom

    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    This is becoming a habit- looking into institutions.
    Today I found another 2nd cousin a bit removed, who married in 1912. In Jan1915 she has been admitted to a workhouse- 'alledged insane' ! along with her dtr aged 7 mths.
    She was later sent to Banstead '??" can anyone work out the other name please? Her child went to Peckham Homes.

    In Mar. 1915 another dtr was baptised at Epsom.
    I would like to find when she left Banstead if possible, I've just reread a post on Banstead from earlier times when Flook was able to help.

    The couple were together in 1939, in Bermondsey- she was incapacitated. tna_r39_0038_0038c_004
    Thanks for any assist. ;)

    Baqnstead- Peckham.JPG
     
  2. annabel

    annabel Puts the Heart into Hertfordshire

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    It looks like Banstead Asylum to me
     
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    The two places look to be Banstead Asylum and Peckham House. Peckham is in South London. Peckham House was still operational as a mental asylum at the time you are looking at, but it no longer exists, having been demolished circa 1954.

    Some background regarding Peckham House:

    On 29 May 1824 Peckham House was put on the market. The advertisement in The Times described it (accurately) as “a most respectable and commodious residence”. But it must have been difficult to sell because it is generally accepted that it was not until 1826 that it was acquired for development as a private asylum for mentally ill people, with the house itself set aside for private patients and with outhouses for paupers. This was typical of a growing trade in ‘private’ asylums. Notwithstanding efforts to build public asylums and to improve regulation, private provision offered rich pickings, particularly by accommodating disturbed paupers. As the Metropolitan Commissioners in Lunacy acknowledged, the Peckham asylum had advantages in that the site, grounds and internal accommodation were good, but beyond this much depended on the proprietor. ln this respect the functioning of Peckham House was initially in the hands of a particularly controversial figure."

    For more about Peckham House see:
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    Banstead Asylum, address Sutton Lane Banstead went by several names
    Banstead Asylum (1877 - 1918)
    Banstead Mental Hospital (1918 - 1937)
    Middlesex County Lunatic Asylum

    For more about Banstead Asylum see Wikipedia:
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banstead_Hospital
     
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    kernowmaid Well-Known Member

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    Agreed - Asylum.

    Oh, the way we treated people in need of help :(

    Jane
     
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    Genie1 Well-Known Member

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    Asylum.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    @annabel, thank you, I was looking for something beginning with 'G'.
    @Oz Faremeister , thank you. Oh the facts of 'Peckham House'. I had thought a care home- for infants. I shudder to think what took place after March 1915. How could an infant be classed as...I'm not sure. I had thought somewhere that an infant would be taken care of until the father could take over.
    I'm really thinking I shold give it all a big miss, looking for kinfolk. Then something wonderful pops up, & off I go again.
     
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    Sandiep Successfully Supports Searches!

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    there was a Peckham Home which was a childrens home in 1913 it was very run down and the girls were transferred to St Marys in Cheam perhaps the child was sent there
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Happiness-just found them both together 1919 in Bermondsey. In 1918 he was at same address with perhaps his brother [a corn porter] :)
    Still a long time to be incarcerated if she still was, & to lose all of that time with her child. Perhaps she spent some time in a convalescent home.
     
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    As you haven't named her I wont either, but I've traced her back from the 1939 register and found the 1915 entry you posted.

    There is a further, unindexed 1915 record for her on Ancestry, well two actually but both on the same page. The second one contains the most information and says that on 27 Oct 1920 she was allowed out for 8 weeks on trial but was readmitted to Banstead 27 Nov 1920 after a relapse. On 16 Jan 1922 she was allowed another trial - 4 weeks this time - and the final entry was 10 Apr 1922 Discharged "Relieved".

    I'm not sure what the protocol is on here for posting links to commercial sites, so I won't, but to find it manually you want the record set London, England, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1738-1926 > Southwark > Bermondsey > Register of Lunatics > Settlement and Relief: Lunatics, 1902-1909, image 864 & 865 of 937
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    @Andromeda Thank you so much for that. It helps fiill in the gaps. I shall have alook for that.:)
    I ddon't like to give names when people are not immediate family or in sad circumstances, no knowing who may pick up on the name & be upset. I do try to throw in a hint or similar so that people can possibly look it up for themselves.
    Good practise at searching too eh? :rolleyes:

    I can guess that to be home again & in the middle of small children & wifely duties may have been rather overwhelming.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Well, this one differs to the other with admissions, seems Emily went to Ladywell & Child home to father. Listed this time as only 4 mths old. I've now found the dtr on 1939 at Lambeth.
     
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    Not quite sure what you're looking at now, as the one I mentioned makes no reference to the child.
     
  13. Sis

    Sis Rootles out resources!

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    @Ma-dotcom here's the link for Andromeda find, it's page 865.

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    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31537_214466-00863?ssrc=&backlabel=Return
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Thank you Sis, I got stuck in Admit & Discharge Records . Can you make out the word before 'house' ? could it be 'ward' house?
     
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    I read it as Workhouse. Could this be it?

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    http://www.workhouses.org.uk/StOlave/
    Will get back to you with your other query.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Yep, I think you are right Sis, Thank you. You are a gem. must go prep meds & eyedrops.
     
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    Thanks for posting the link Sis, I wasn't sure if commercial links were allowed - now I know :)

    I read it as Parish Street now of House, ie workhouse, although that didn't make sense to me as Parish Street was the workhouse address, and her former address per the earlier record was Kinross Street.
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    By the rules you are not allowed to post clicky links to commercial sites but you can post a link as long as you enter it in a code. You can do this by clicking on the icon at the top of your post, clicking on code and entering the address in there. Diagram below.
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    Thank you :D
     
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    must be me the link took me to an ancestry free trial!!
     
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