Priscilla Warren

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    I am a bit high maintenance lately and I apologise. I finally have a bit of time for Genie. In a previous thread here some years ago I was looking for various Warrens. In the course of that scamper, it was discovered that one Joshua Warren baptised 23.6.1816 in Wimbledon, son of 'my' James Warren and Mary Batchelor was in the 48th Foot (@Flook and @Jellylegs). In the 1851 H0107 Piece 2018 fol. 171 p.20 he is a batman to a Captain Chapman and living with his wife Priscilla (born 1826) and three sproglings. The eldest born in Ireland and I think the second boy born in Londonderry NI. The daughter Mary Ann born in Northamptonshire.

    Anyway I've never found them anywhere else after that sighting. I looked up the daughters birth reg and discovered that her mothers MN was Sanders.

    Can anyone find any of the blighters after 1851? I cannot find a marriage between Joshua and Priscilla and although Priscilla says she was born in Somerset I cant find her either.
     
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    Have you seen Joshua's service record on FMP? - he was discharged from the army at Parkhurst in June 1856 (enlisted in 1835, spent almost 3 years in Gibralta)
    His occupation was cheesemonger
     
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    Loving your work. I did see some of it, but not the bit about GIb. I saw something that looked like a pension record. I wonder where he went after that? I was also really surprised that he could be an officers batman and have his whole family living with him, but OH said his wife was probably a servant too.
     
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    If I looked at the same one (Royal Hospital Chelsea) then Sheffield is written in the residence column
     
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    There are 2 more births reg in the Northampton Union Warren mmn Sanders
    1854 Samuel 3b 57
    1857 Maria Francis 3b 68
     
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    I didn't think to look for more, thanks ever so. They must have gone back to Northampton after Wolverhampton then but according to what you found Joshua was still in the army when they were born
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    Sorry missed off Maria's yob 1857 (I edited) so born after Joshua left the army,
    assuming these are the children of him and Priscilla:nailbiting:
     
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    So far Ancestry searches reveal both a Samuel and Maria Warren children of Edwin and ann but nothng for Joshua and Priscilla :(
     
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    As you might say - bummocks:D

    I couldn't find Samuel and Maria in 1861 - so back to square one:headbang:
     
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    I am wondering if he went to foreign parts with the family. I have no marriage for Joshua and Priscilla, and willingly admit to wondering whether she followed the 48th foot as a bit of a loose woman. But cutting her a bit of slack, their probable firstborn was in Ireland so maybe she married there. Why would he be in Ireland anyway? Thanks so much for looking lovely.
     
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    Can you make out Priscilla's pob of from the 1851 census
    Anc has West Chensee, but there is no such place
    I was hoping to find a Somerset bap for a Priscilla.

    I wondered if they married in Gibralta, but Ireland is a possible too
     
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    I think it is a bit clearer on FMP does West Chinnock make sense?
    the previous thread mentioned at 1 found a priscilla chant in somerset, but I cannot see how she ties in with Sanders.
     
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    I tried with Priscilla Chant, and do not think she is the right one either.

    There is a birth reg for a Mary Ann Warren in Wolverhampton in 1851
    June qr v17 p472 mmn Bourn

    I do not think the mmn Sanders birth in Northampton is yours - the birth was registered in the Dec qtr 1851

    The census was taken 30th March and Mary Ann was 8 months, which rules out the Wolverhampton birth reg too:sceptical:
     
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    ****** I might not be allowed to say that

    I knew I wouldnt b**gger
     
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    I have just been down the Priscilla Chant road - as it is only her mother Sarah named when she was baptised, I wondered if Sarah had gone on to marry a Mr Sanders and then Priscilla was known as Sanders......but I can’t find any such marriage to back up the theory :(
     
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    On the 1851 8month old Mary Ann is said to be born Weedon Northamptonshire
    Weedon is in the Daventry reg District
    There are no Warren female births reg 1850 +/- 1 year in Daventry
    apart from Mary in the Dec. qtr 1851, so too late for the 1851 census:headbang:
     
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    Might theý have registered her later?
     
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    I was looking at Joshua last night (well probably the night before now as it is nearly 3.30 am in the morning - still trying to sort out Uncle Don's funeral service sheet - delayed by several power-cuts throughout the evening) and had totally forgotten that we found him in 1851. So I went a looking and thought I found a possible death - oh poo, I tore up all my notes, so will have to look again.

    His service records say: Discharge is proposed in consequence of his having completed his full period of 21 years service and to serve on the permanent staff of the 2nd Derby Militia.

    There is a death registration of a 39 year old Joshua Warren in the March quarter of 1857 - Chesterfield Union in the County of Derby - ref 7b/315. I think I got confused with the year, and as the 1851 census said he was somewhere different, so didn't mention it before. If this is him, perhaps his wife re-married.
     
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    This is Priscilla's (Warron on FMP) pob from the 1851 census
    (HO107/2018/171/20)
    upload_2019-1-14_8-10-42.png

    Can anyone make a place out of it?
    Anc has it as Chensee Somersetshireo_O, FMP as Somerset:rolleyes:

    For reference this is how the enumerator writes another Ch
    upload_2019-1-14_8-13-55.png
     
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    And here's the burial record from Chesterfield Holy Trinity parish registers on Ancestry
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