Given that in 2 previous threads on this particular forum in Oct 2018 I got lotsa help, I wonder if I am pushing my luck in attempting to go back further on John Evans who was married to Ann Whilding 3 Apr. 1833 in St. Harmon, Radnorshire [after Banns]. There are a few trees that I've seen that indicate that John Evans was aged 80 when he died in Nantyfeen in 1892. I've been following this guy and think he could well be my John Evans. To support this feeling I have the 1891 census - RG12/4584/ 5/4 - which shows him as a a 79 year old farmer with wife Mary age 76. Mary was his 2nd wife. The GRO reference for the death in Rhayder is J q. 1892 vol. 11B page 115. I am aware that John and his 1st wife, Ann, had a son Thomas [who married a Mary Jones in 1872] and in 1891 was residing with his wife and 6 children - RG12/4584/68/10 - and was a farmer. It is to him that I believe Probate of the estate of John Evans was processed 13 Jun. 1892. One tree seems to infer that John was born or baptised 22 Apr. 1812 in Cwnstydwr [sic], Abbeycwmhir to parents John and Mary. 1841 census- H0107/1458/4/11/16 - shows a John Evans age 60 with wife Mary age 50 - occupation farmer living. I then found a John Evans in 1851 - H0107/2494/32/12 - age 75 [farmer] with wife Mary age 66. I could not find a John and Mary Evans fitting this couple in 1861 so I believe they were deceased by 1861. Looking at the John Evans age 75 in 1851 gives us an indicated birth year of 1777c. I have 2 possibles from the GRO deaths: J q. 1855 - age 72 - 11B page 740 S q. 1856 - age 79 - 11B page 120 The one in 1856 matches the indicated birth year. Looking at the Mary Evans age 66 in 1851 gives us indicated birth year of 1785c. I have 2 possibles from GRO deaths: J q. 1853 - age 69 - 11B page 145 - indicated birth year c. 1784 M q. 1860 - age 74 - 11B page 161 - indicated birth year 1786 The same tree that shows John's birth or baptism in 1812 indicates his parents were John Evans [born 1777] and Mary Evans [born 1791]. My view of the 1841 census indicates that John was born in Radnorshire but that Mary was not. In 1851 census both are supposedly born in St. Harmon.