Re: Help me find the Parents and children of Thomas Brown (1808-)

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  1. Wofarob

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    I cannot find him in 1841 or 1851 Census but here he is in 1861 Census with his wife and Grand Son Philip.
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    1851 Census HO107, Piece/Folio: 1828 / 407, Page 4
    Event Place: Castle Rising, Norfolk, England
    Registration District: Freebridge Lynn

    Thomas Browne, Head, Male, 40, Labourer, Castle Rising, Norfolk
    Anna Browne, Wife, 39, Babingley, Norfolk
    Elizabeth Browne, Daughter, 9, Castle Rising, Norfolk
    George Song, Lodger, 22, Mulbarton, Norfolk
     
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    Aren’t you a clever monkey. I gave up early in the piece :reading:
     
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    Census 1841 HO107, Piece/Folio: 768/8, Page 27
    Event Place: Castle Rising, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom
    Registration District: Freebridge Lynn
    Residence Note: Alms House

    Thomas Browne, 30, Ag Lab, Norfolk
    Ann Browne, 25, Norfolk
    Eve Lowler, 10, Norfolk
    Thirza Lowler, 7, Norfolk
     
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    There's this baptism, original on Ancestry. Not saying that it's definately your Thomas.

    Thomas Brown
    10 Apr 1808
    Castle Rising, Norfolk
    Father Saml Brown
    Mother Sussana
     
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    I suspect the children's surnames are really Fowler and not Lowler

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    There is a marriage for a Anne Fowler to a Thomas Brown in 1840 - this should give Thomas' father's name.

    Thomas Brown
    Anne Fowler
    Marriage Place: Freebridge Lynn, Norfolk, England
    Registration District: Freebridge Lynn
    Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
    Registration Year: 1840
    Volume: 13
    Page: 189

    Thirza Fowler
    Christening Date: 13 Apr 1833, Castle Rising, Norfolk, England
    Father's Name: Philip Fowler
    Mother's Name: Anna
     
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    Looks like Ann/Anna/Hannah may have been a widow when she married Thomas. The marriage certificate should show this as it is post 1837.

    There is a death for a Philip Fowler

    FOWLER, PHILIP
    Age: 29
    1837 S Quarter in FREEBRIDGE LYNN UNION Volume 13 Page 73
     
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    Anna/Hannah says she was born in Babingley, Norfolk

    There is this marriage

    Marriage: 09 Nov 1829, Babingley, Norfolk
    Philip Fowler (signed)
    Anna Lane (made her mark)
    After Banns
    Witness 1: Thomas Hamond (signed)
    Witness 2: Mary Lane (made her mark)

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    There this Bishops Transcript of a marriage on Ancestry, transcription only.

    Philip Fowler
    Date: 09/11/1829
    Place: Babingley, Norfolk, England
    Spouse: Anna Lane
     
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    Snap Chimp. You really are in top form this morning.:D
     
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    He certainly is. It’s early though.
     
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    And to think a few days ago everything I posted had already been posted by someone else :eek:
     
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    Just a bit quicker on the day Chimp. :)
     
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    There is some confusion with Fowler/Towler name (probably down to transcriptions)

    Philip the grandson is registered with the surname Towler
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    In case you did not have them Wofarob

    Thomas and Hannah in Castle Rising in 1871 and 1881
    1871 RG10/1862/64/9
    1881 RG11/1996/45/6
    Thomas's death
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    Elizabeth on the 1851 census - birth reg
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    confirming that Thomas married the widow Fowler mmn Lane:)
     
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    Buried on 13th November 1883

    1891 Census, RG12, Piece: 1567, Folio: 42, Page: 7

    Alms Houses, Castle Rising, Freebridge Lynn, Norfolk, England

    Hannah Brown, Head, Widow, 81, Inmate, Babingley, Norfolk, England

    There is a death for a Hannah Brown born 1812.

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    Chimp, Archie’s Mum, Sis and MollyMay, thank you very much for the valuable information you have found for me. DNA suggests that Elizabeth (Brown) Plowright (1841- 1919) and I were 1st Cousins and the connection may be through her Mother, Ann or Father, Thomas. As a result, an information about either of them would be very helpful. From you, I now know Ann’s maiden name was Lane, thank you. I also have Sml. and Susanna Brown as Thomas’s Parents but I am unable to go further. Where do I search for information on Thomas between 1808 and 1840? Thank you for helping me find my Ancestors.

    Rob
     
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    Try here for a start--
    England, Norfolk, Parish Registers (County Record Office), 1510-1997
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    Thank you, Wendy for your Post. I am trying to find the whereabouts of Thomas during the period before he got married to Ann.

    Rob
     
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