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Red Cross Records

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  1. MollyMay

    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    Thanks to a posting by @AnnB I have found an entry for my dad's cousin who died in WW1.

    Walter Frederick Carrett[e] is listed CWGC as KIA 23/3/1918 France and Flanders
    and he is remembered on the Pozierers Memorial (so no body recovered?)
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    This is the Red Cross entry for him.
    Do you think the dates are when they searched the pow camps for him? I cannot think of another explanation.
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    AnnB Editor in Chief who is Hot off the Press!

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    Brilliant MM, the records are very varied as to how much information is available. I can't really fathom out what the dates mean. I've tried reading the blurb on the site, but I still can't work it out. I did wonder if it was the date the prisoner was freed from the camp?
     
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    "Négatif envoyé" means "negative sent" - which is of no use whatsoever... :(
     
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    All 3 of the dates, on the Red Cross record, are after the date the CWGC has as his death date, so I thought (dangerous I know :D), that his mother - I am guessing rep means reply to - had asked for him to be searched for and they did on those dates and the negatif (thanks Jan my french does not go beyond counting:eek:) meant they did not find him.
     
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    Au contraire! (see below)
    I wondered (thinking again :D) if 'Rep' might be something like Representative - but it's fairly clearly the person they had to contact.

    My take on this is that he was reported missing in March 1918 (is that a 7 after 1918?), and "Négatif envoyé" records when letters were sent to his mother telling her that there was still no sign of him. (I've seen similar letters in a WW2 casualty record for someone who went missing in action.)

    The handwritten numbers at the top seem to be in the same hand as some of the dates at the bottom, so I suspect each letter was individually numbered as it was written/sent. Any ideas what F.s.N. (?or P.s.N.) might mean?
     
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    That makes a lot of sense. Thanks Arthur. :)
     
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    From the Pozieres Memorial site
    upload_2017-11-14_17-47-5.png
    So he was missing sometime after the offensive began on 21st March (one of many thousands) and the dates were when the Red Cross wrote to his mum saying still not found. His death date is when he was reported missing perhaps.
    Still working on F s N (but if is in French then I have no chance:nailbiting:)
     
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    2 ideas from an online search for F s N are..
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      FSN
      Foreign Service National
      Military, Embassy, Employment
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      FSN
      French Speaking Nation
    Read more: sorry mods can you fix ? (Done. Jan ;))
    allacronymsdotcom/_Military/FSN#ixzz4yQs2CG4S
     
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