Royal Navy Service Records

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  1. Qsecofr

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    Hi All,

    The colder nights are getting here so time to dust off the family history files again and almost straight away a question emerges.

    I managed to get a copy of my Uncles Naval Service Records. Among all of the normal HMS this and HMS That, there is an entry 'Lent: Burma 13th - 17th October 1942'.

    I can't find a ship or shore establishment named Burma so can only guess that my uncle was lent to Burma. Does anyone have any idea what it actually means because i'm either being incredibly stupid and looking in the wrong place or it actually is the country but for what purpose?
     
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    GrannyBarb Custodian of the Family Accounts

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    What was the last "HMS That" entry before the "Lent" one? Looking up what was going on in Burma in October, 1942, there was a typhoon on top of the normal rainy season, during which not much fighting was going on. I also saw a note on a family site where the Royal Navy did lend vessels to Burma at times during the war. Not much help, but you are not being stupid at all. :)
     
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    Thanks Granny Barb

    Nice to know i'm just old and not old and stupid lol.

    The list goes:-
    HMS Ganges,
    Passage,
    HMS Pembroke
    HMS Shropshire 21 Feb 1942 - 21 Sep 1942,
    Passage 22 Sep 1942 - 12 Oct 1942,
    Lent: Burma 13 Oct 1942 - 17 Oct 1942,
    HMS Tana 18 Oct 1942 - 14 Jan 1943,
    HMS Revenge 15 Jan 1943 - 28 Oct 1943
    HMS Pembroke etc.
     
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    Thanks, Q. Hmmm. I'm not sure how to read this record. Will look around. Maybe some of our sleuths here can help.

    I bet I'm "stupider" than you on this one. :confused:
     
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    Just had a reply from the wonderful people in the Royal Navy.

    It appears that he was lent to the country Burma but the records being examined do not go into further detail.

    As I am not a military specialist does anyone know if there would be something like a ships war diary on-line that is searchable as this may solve the riddle?
     
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    I wonder if it was to do with the Burma Campaign. This ran from 1942 to 1945
    I wonder if they needed Naval expertise to help them with the effects of the monsoon season.

    Just a thought....
     
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    Hi Jan

    Yes that's a possibility but as he was an ordinary seaman and not described as having any specialist skills 'Signaller' or the like i wonder why he would have been needed unless they needed to give him something to do while waiting for his next posting 5 days later.
     
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    Hi Barb,

    I will certainly give it a try when I get home tomorrow will let you all know if I have any luck.
     
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    He could have just been one of the 'grunts' - doing as he was told rather than using his expertise.

    There must have been a purpose otherwise why spend 20 days travelling there for 5 days work.... :sceptical:
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    I’m not sure of any dates, however Capt Robert Franks who was a previous midshipman on HMS Shropshire worked his way up to Commander of HMS Scimitar. After that he was sent to Burma, without a command, on an incredible mission. With him he took 20 sailors and to use gun boats to harass and hopefully destroy Japanese placements along the Mayu River. Sleeping, hidden by day and raiding by night, Robert led his sailors on a very successful mission. So successful they were told to come home bythedart.co.uk
    My thoughts are that he was able to choosehis sailors he wanted with him, perhaps your chap may have been one of them.
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Perhaps not. That offensive was in 1943. But it was interesting reading. Perhaps along the same lines.
    Also HMS Shropshire was gifted to Australia after the sinking of the Canberra becoming HMAS Shropshire. The name Canberra had been taken by the Americans in honour of the loss of lives on HMAS Canberra.
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    HMS TANA was a shore base at Kilindini, Mombasa, Kenya. So in Burma on 17th Oct and then in Kenya on the 18th? and does ‘passage’ mean travelling times from one ship or base to the next?
     

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