Scottish Research

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  1. Blackmogs

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    Hello Lovelies, are any of you Scottish experts? I am doing a bit of digging for a friend and these records our out of my comfort zone. I did find a marvelous death 'stificate on Scotland's People but to my untrained eye it looks as though civil registration started in 1855. What exists before that? My victims seem to have had a number of offspring in Brigend of Lintrathen and Kingoldrum, wherever they might be. :rolleyes:. Remember I have the spatial awareness of a glass of warm water. I'm tracking John Scott (the equivalent of Smith I think) and his wife Agnes Pettrie/Pettray. First child born 1779. Any suggestions about where to look and what to look for greatly appreciated as always.
     
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    There are 3 christenings on family search.

    Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

    Patrick Scot
    christening: 24 January 1790, Forfarshire, Scotland
    father: John Scot
    mother: Agnes Petrie

    Margaret Scott
    christening: 28 June 1792, Bridgend of Lintrathen, Forfarshire, Scotland
    father: John Scott
    mother: Agnes Petrie

    Shusan Scott
    christening: 7 July 1794, Bridgend of Lintrathen, Forfarshire, Scotland
    father: John Scott
    mother: Agnes Pettrey
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    They are on Scotlandspeople.

    Put in name and date range and look under "Old Parish Registers Births"
     
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    As long as you're signed into SP then this link should take you to the records

    Link (link allowed)
     
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    Well, I'm no expert, I've only dabbled in Scottish records, but I think I've struck lucky :rolleyes:
    I searched in the Old Parish Registers, births and baptisms (I found that Lintrathen is in Angus), so selected Angus in the County/City option, selected Lintrathen in the Parish option, gave a date range of 1778-1800 and searched for Scott. There were only 4 'hits' and they seem to be two sets of duplicates, although they do have different refs......

    So -
    Margaret Scott parents John Scott/Agnes Petrie 28/6/1792 Ref 10 140
    Margaret Scott parents John Scott/Agnes Peter 28/6/1792 Ref 10 93
    Shusan Scott parents John Scott/Agnes Peatrie 7/7/1794 Ref 10 143
    Shusan Scott parents John Scott/Agnes Pettrey 7/7/1794 Ref 10 97

    Any good?

    Blimey Terry, I never thought to just add a link :sceptical:
     
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    Oh ta ever so. Having played with that combo I get David Scott 31.10.1779 who is the target. I have David's death 'stificate which is where I got the parents from. He RIP in 1855. From the death 'stificate it looks as though he and Janet had 11 children not many of whom lived.
     
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    cooo snarky, cannot see original Scottish census on Ancestry or FMP
     
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    'fraid not - Scotland's People is the only way :(
     
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    Scotlands People hold the rights to the images
     
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    Bummocks to them then:headbang:
     
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    Would you kindly check the information on David's DC?. It seems as though his offspring are listed and most of them are deceased by the time he died in 1855. Could you confirm I'm reading it properly. also I cannot make out what it says about Thomas. TVM
     

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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Sorry, cannot see a Thomas, my bigamajig not working.
    Not knowing what the titles are I see here
    John b. 1805-- 9 Joseph
    James b. 1805/8 -- 10 Isaac
    David b/ 1814-- 11 Thomas
    etc
     
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    Is this a better 7.7.2020.JPG image, he is the last child named on the righthand column but I cannot read what it says about him.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Lovely, but where does it fit?
     
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    It's a guess: dec in 1841 born in 1831, similar to Margaret's entry giving both b and d dates. I've never seed a Scottish death record with all the children listed this way.
     
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    As GrannyBarb says, I think Thomas's entry has something about his death, but I wonder if it might be dec at 18 mo in 1831? If the children are in order, then the next youngest, Isaac, now 26, would have been born c1829, so 18 months old in 1831 would fit quite well for Thomas.

    I think Margaret's is dec in (year) - 1841??
     
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    I go along with Arthur's interpretation and I can't make up my mind about Margaret's year of death 1841 or 1844?
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Sorry, I was a washout there.
     
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    Blame the parents - the form has space for 8 children so if they go and have 11 they have to squeeze them in where they can, and it's not as clear as it might have been.
     

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