Thomas Ridall Brannon

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  1. BernardOC

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    Thomas Ridall was born on 3 November 1835 and Baptised on 13 January 1836, st St George in the East, Stepney.

    He is on the 1851 Census as Thomas Brannon age 16 with his mother Katherine Brannon, living at 12 Valentine Terrace, Mill Street, Bow, Middlesex.

    Cannot find any other traces about him on any other Census, nor any marriage or death.

    Can any details be added please.
     
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    1841 census - HO107 piece 697 book 6 folio 57 page 8
    Catherine St., St. George's in the East

    Margaret Lathan 1781 Scotland
    Cath Brannon 1811 }
    Thomas Brannon 1836 } all born Middlesex
    Margaret Brannon 1840 }
     
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    His father - Thomas Leonard was a seaman so this may be relevant.

    FMP has Britain Merchant Seaman 1837-1857 records
    Thomas Brennon age 23 b1833 (1853-1857 set) born London
    (No other info on the original other than the name of 2 ships one in 1853 the other in 1857)

    So he might well have followed his father's trade as a seaman
     
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    Ancestry have them as Brown in 1841 :eek:
     
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    This is interesting. His father ended up as a Master Mariner, so Thomas could hav become a seafarer.
    Can you let me have the namesof the two ships please.
     
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    Out 1853 upload_2019-5-10_21-44-51.png

    Home 1856 upload_2019-5-10_21-46-2.png

    I will let you decypher the ship's names
     
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    By the way, his father Thomas Leonard died in 1847. His death was registered in the December quarter, volume 2, page 537, Stepney registration district.. He was aged 39.
     
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    This may or may not be relevant - 1861 census RG09/4448/5/1
    Shipping at Sea and in Ports Abroad
    There is a Thomas Brandon (same on both FMP & Anc) a fireman born London age 25 (b1836)

    Vessel name Nicholas Wood
     
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    City of Boulogne ? London
     
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    I think the first ship's name is Sylph and the second one City of Boulogne :)
     
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    I agree with Sylph, but am not convinced that the second one is City of Boulogne. Among other things I have googles SS City of * and quite a few come up, but not SS City of Boulonge. Having said that I could be wrong and I don't have a suggestion as to what it could be.:rolleyes:
     
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    'It was all very well owning its own port but the South Eastern Railway found that it was not legally possible to operate their own steamers. The original vessels therefore were sub-chartered from the New Commercial Steam Packet Company on 1 August 1843, shortly after noon and after a special banquet given by the railway directors and the corporation of Folkestone, crowds gathered on the South Pier to witness the arrival of the 190 ton steamer City of Boulogne. The Sir William Wallace then departed with 75 passengers while later that same day, the third vessel Emerald arrived with a further 142.'
    The above from History of Folkstone Harbour.
    The New Commercial Steam Packet Company was a nominal company independent of the South Eastern Railway due to legal restrictions operated the worlds first rail/sea service from 1843. Folkstone to Boulogne.
     
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    The Sylph a barque of 350 tons was in port in Adelaide 15 March 1853. Thompson master, from Sydney and Melbourne. So it seems to me that he sailed out to Australia in 1853 on the Sylph and returned on the City of Boulogne from France to Folkestone 1856
     
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    I’m not sure now if it’s the same Sylph as there is one plying the coast here at around the same time.
     
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    I've also swept thru Google but nothing. City Line was absorbed by Ellermans but City of Boulogne isn't on their listing. Mystery??
     
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    Yes this is listed in Aussie records.
     
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    Thanks I'll add this to my list for further research.
     
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    I Googled ss "City of Boulogne" and a few results came up. :)
     

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