Till Family, Otterton

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  1. Nabean

    Nabean Well-Known Member

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    I'm trying to find out more about my grandmother's father's family (Till) from Otterton in Devon.
    I've managed to go as far back as 1695, when Edward, son of Edward and Jane Till was baptised at Ottery St. Mary, but I'm very interested in Ambrose Edwin Till (cousin Ambrose, as my nana used to refer to him as, although he was her uncle, I think). In the 1901 census, he was in Ireland (a coastguard in Balbriggan), and in 1911 (ditto S. Isle, Arran), but he and his wife, Isabella, have links to Pembroke, where he died in 1928.
    My nana said he was a bare-knuckle fighter in Devon, and had been forced to 'disappear', after killing a man in the ring. I dread to think what might have happened; I've looked in newspaper articles and criminal records, but can't find anything.
    Are there any sleuths out there?
    This is him, as a young boy (he was born in 1871).
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    Ambrose was, in fact, my grandmother's cousin: her father's brother (George Edwin Till) had two sons, Ambrose Edwin and Walter Thomas, but his wife, Lavinia (23) died shortly after Walter was born, and the boys went to live with their grandparents, Thomas and Caroline Till.
    Amazingly, I have just discovered that a Walter Thomas Till (born in Otterton St. Thomas in 1873) emigrated to America, as the info on this site would indicate:
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    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/87607930/walter-thomas-till
    (Clicky link removed as they have a shop :) )
    It's a free site, and enables you to trace descendants easily.
     
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  3. Ma-dotcom

    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Hadn't really heard the 'Till' surname before until yesterday I discovered one Lilian Grace TILL married my 4th cousin'ROGERS' in 1936- Lewisham reg. district.
    Living Woolwich 1939. ;)
     
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    @Ma-dotcom , it's a small world! You can imagine how difficult it is searching for the Till family, as every time the word 'till' appears, you get a result on Google!
    Free BMD is a good source, but I absolutely refuse to pay Ancestry, and now Find My Past for information which I regard as mine.
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    The US 1910 census shows them living in Hegins, Schuylkill, Pennsylvania

    Walter T Till, Married, age 37, born 1873 - No Profession.
    Jennie Till, Married, age 41, born 1869
    Mildred Till, Daughter, age 5, born 1905
    Mertle Till, Daughter, age 7 months, born 1910

    The 1920 US census Walter said he emigrated in 1883 and was nationalised in 1891.

    He must have come back to England at some point as he was sailing from Liverpool to Pennsylvania in 1894, sailing in the Indiana. He landed on 17th February 1894. His occupation was Bartender.
     
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    I think the 1920 census could be wrong (or he might have lied!).
    The 1891 census has him, aged 17, living with his brother, Ambrose, aged 20, with their grandparents, Thomas and Caroline Till in Otterton.
    He was working as a labourer in East Budleigh, and Ambrose was a sailor.
    That would tie in with the 1894 voyage to America.
     
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  7. Archie's Mum

    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    I wonder if the A Till, Carpenter age 30 as crew on the ‘Victoria’ of Greenock that arrived in Sydney from London on the 9th December 1905 could be him. States he was from London.
     
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    I don't think so @Archie's Mum , Ambrose appears in the Ireland census in both 1901 and 1911, where he was working as a coastguard, with a wife (Isabella, and by 1911, 2 daughters (Violet Edith, 3 and Ellen (6 months).
     

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