TISCH, TISH, Tiskovitch

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    MollyMay

    have a look at RG12; Piece: 256; Folio: 104; Page: 10
    the first family is Abraham, Rachel, Hyman (1)
    does that look like the missing Tisch family with a strange surname ?
     
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    So that then frees up Myer to marry Mille Gold, but does not solve whose child Morris is, it could be Rachael but it would not have been in Russia.
     
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    It looks like them - but we are getting side tracked - again.
    Why are these families so enthralling?
     
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    Not sure about that, but there is a Hyman BOOTCOV birth registered in Bethnal Green RD, December quarter 1890, volume 1c, page 148 (Indexed as BOOTCOY on FreeBMD, but I did check the original page of the register.)
     
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    thanks Jan

    I'm not sure it's them either - but as MollyMay reminded me I was getting over-excited with not strictly relevant stuff o_O
     
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    Not just you - both of us :eek:
     
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    I think bubbles would be in order as the team live to fight another day.......:cool:

    But back to the Tisch/Tish question. Who would have thought it would be so difficult to pin down this lot? The Rachel you found the death reg. for seems much more likely.

    There is a website which seems to have a lot of databases to search on-line (JCR-UK) , but it would appear you have to register - might be worth it? jewishgen.org/databases/UK/ If you enter Tisch in the search thingy there seem to be a fair few hits, but you can't see them unless you have registered.

    Just something else for you to do in your spare time......;)

    Ann
     
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    Hi Ann

    I was looking at that website yesterday myself. I couldn't decide if I should register or not as it might just be yet another distraction -- after all I am supposed to be researching Kathleen Thomas, not Tisches from Poland/Russia :oops: ... but I do like them :rolleyes:
     
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    Go on - be a devil......:cool:

    Ann
     
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    Whilst waiting for Kathleen's marriage cert I thought I'd go for Plan B which is -- If I can't find anything/much on my main line of enquiry, look at other Civilian War Casualties with the same death reg. -- Plan C is to look at those who died in the same incident --

    So Kathleen's death reg is shared with three of the St Scholastica's ladies and one Annie TROBE --- believe it or not, I soon found myself involved in yet another complicated Russian Jewish family ---

    I am appealing in desperation as to whether anyone can work out who Annie STALITSKY married :confused: the reference is Mar 1907 Whitechapel 1c 436 -- she is the only person under that reference on FreeBMD (Ancestry have her and another woman), I checked the original image it does appear to be correct -- it may be a wild goose chase (that seems par for the course) but if we can confirm who she married it may just hold some of the answers --
     
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    I think it is 1c 435.

    Free BMD has three entries for 435:

    BENNETT Clarice Regina Whitechapel 1c 435
    Raberoff Solomon Whitechapel 1c 435
    ROSS Abraham Whitechapel 1c 435

    I have submitted a correction to FreeBMD.
     
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    1911 English census has an Annie (age 29) and Solomon (age 33) Raberoff at RG14; Piece: 1075, 147 Sandringham Rd, Dalston N E, St John-at-Hackney. Both born Russia.
     
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    Solomon Raberoff died at 40, Frederick Road, Hastings (with the address of 22, Cambridge Gardens, Hastings) on the 28th January 1925 (National Probate Calendar) effects of £324 11s 6d to his wife, Annie. If this is the correct couple, there are several references to the surname in the Hastings newspapers - including a dispute over the ownership of a mattress between Annie and an Alta Goldberg. It tells of Solomon being in the Infirmary and that Annie ran a boarding establishment at 43, Wellington Square (?Hastings) up to the end of 1923. Amongst other people mentioned is a Fanny Kiverstein of 42, Hennidge Street, Brick Lane, Whitechapel.

    Ann
     
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    Thanks Doug:)

    I did wonder if it might be 435 after I sent my post but by then I was too tired to care, I mean check:rolleyes:. Thank you for the 1911 census too.

    Ann, thanks for the juicy titbits -- fighting over a mattress!? (mind you, some Somerset cousins of mine were in the paper after getting into a fight all because one looked at the other in the wrong way:eek:)

    Now, to try and work out how Annie Stalitsky/Raberoff fits with the Trobe/Stalitsky family I am trying to construct ... I may have to come back to you with this ...
     
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    Found an interesting article on the use of surnames in Russian Poland which may in part explain some of the difficulties I am having:

    I note especially the following statement:

    Women who married multiple times used any of their current and prior surnames, often in an inconsistent manner.
    http:// www. jewishgen.org/infofiles/pl-sname.html
     
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    How darned inconsiderate of them ;), on a positive note - it helps to keep the old grey matter working!
     
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    Lord above - as if we haven't got enough problems.....:confused: Can you imagine waking up in the morning and thinking "Which name shall I use today?" :cool:

    Ann
     
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    The marriage certificate is here :)... I just popped by to tell you I should have gone with my first instinct and tried harder to trace the 1909 Morris :( -- hopefully there is still a connection to the other Tischs we have been tracing ...:confused:

    Going to have a look around and will pop back with report and marriage details ... soon
     
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    Waiting with bated breath!
     

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