Two marriage records? In two towns?

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    Exactly 3 weeks difference, so quite probably Banns and Marriage.
     
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    Thank you Jan, however on another online enquiry, and I'll have to search for it again they have the transcript of the marriage and it is dated and witnessed, January 21 1831 :(
     
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    I did wonder if he'd been baptised as 'other than Isaac' but changed it later.
    Then again perhaps born out of Scotland but later lived there from a young age.
    One census 1841 has an Isaac 30 b.1811-England, a cabinet maker, wife Margaret b.1809 England, with 3 children b.England youngest Isaac 2 b.1839 Midlothian.
    Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts; ED: 45A; Page: 2

    Same family -in 1851 he's joiner b.Caithness!
    Parish: Wick; ED: 6; Page: 2; Line: 17; Roll: CSSCT1851_10; Year: 1851.

    Some one wasn't too sure.;)
     
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    Jan 21 1831 the piece I saw.
     
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    Yes, you are correct. I checked again and the part transcription says 'banns'.
    So that will be case with post #1?
    I'm not at all conversant with banns as we don't and haven't for lots of years had them in the Presbyterian Church. I had never even heard of them until I started this joyful hobby.;)
     
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    Isaac Sutherland, Minister in Dunn in the parish of Stratten (sic) was "maty cont'd" to Margaret Buchanan in Louisburgh [Louisburgh Street in Wick is in Scotland.] Rob buchanan, weaver in Louisburg for the woman,
    Alered Glenn, day lab'r for the man.

    p.s. title is:
    21-01-1831, Sutherland Isaac[OPR Marriages 043/0050 0124 Wick]
     
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    The one I found says Alex Gunn for the man,
    Hang on.......
    'Sutherland, Isaac, minister in Dunn in the parish Watten, was married to Margaret Buchanan in Louisburgh. Alex Gunn, day labourer in Dunn ? (witness?) for the man and Robert Buchanan, weaver for the woman. The page dated 21 January and a signature at the bottom'
    I'll have to go and find it again...I'll be back.
    It's from a Family Tree Circles forum.
     
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    Probably just my version, see here:- Glenn.JPG off to Brekky now ciao.

    the 'maty Cout'd' or whatever I took to be a Scots wording. all on same page have same wording.

    back soon
     
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    Maybe it means 'betrothed' and whoever transcribed the one in post #27 believed it to mean married. Sorted?
    And definitely not 'Alex Gunn' now that I have seen it.
     
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    Pretty much- Wick marriages.JPG
     
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    So if this is his marriage, in January, what is it in February?
    Sorry, I'm perplexed!!!!
    Something I read somewhere about Isaac was that, yes, he was a cabinetmaker before ministering (or even whist I guess)
    http://www.cursiter.com/txt-exe-files/Buchmar.txt
     
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    #20

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    Sorry for being pedantic.....therefore he married in February not January as is noted on all trees. February comes after January......banns posted 21 Jan, 28 Jan, 4 Feb....married 11th Feb......peanut bikkies are cooked...next batch....spice and almond.
     
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    Do you know? I didn't even pick up on that :oops: So the weird words may mean just that intention to marry & the people standing for them-one for each- were proof of their intentions or such. rather like vouching persons on licence to marry.
    Not had a lot to do with other than straight out marriages in Scotland. FMP has Jan 21 as marriage dater also- perhaps none of us can interpret early images well.
    I wonder where he was born??

    Envy your bikky baking-used to love it. Made ahead 4 meals yesterday wrists aren't up to much today. :(
     
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    Hallelujah....I'm not thick after all...I was starting to have some doubt though.
    o_O
    Bikkies are my 'thing' along with cheese and chive muffins..;):D
     
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    Bikkies used to be mine also, gave them up for His sake- mattered not- he bought his own! Just lost the urge to I think- prefer making meals & maybe snacky things for happy hour.

    I almost said "I don't want to play anymore" re you avbove post, but hey, it's where we get our entertainment- isn't it? -isn't....:sceptical:
     
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    I meant, I was perhaps thinking I was thick but I checked that thing over and over and still came up with the same answer. Everyone else got it wrong...it wasn't me after all. Even the greats at FMP. Of course that's only if there isn't another couple with the same names.
    I also rechecked more that once the definition of betrothal. I always thought it was the marriage but it's the intention to marry, an engagement. So perhaps that word in Scots language, whatever it is, (Celtic?) may mean betrothed. Sorry you already mentioned that. :oops:
     
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    Gaelic! :)
     
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    That's the one.:D
    With the maiden of Sutherland you would have thought I would not be so thick.:sceptical::D:)
     
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    It's called bikkie Brain Sue. repeating & checking. :D [or maybe picky brain- we all do it]
    I also did same even tried for Scots phrases & terms for marriages etc.
    Am now looking for childrens baptisms/ Christenings, so far no young Isaac in Scotland, looking for Catharine now/Catherine, having probs keying so may have to stop.
    Wonder if Isaac wasn't bapt'/christened, therefore not registered as being!
     

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