West Ham Tramway Memorial

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  1. Robert Barnes

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    On the West Ham Tramway memorial is a J.A. Dowsett, I can't link this name to any on the CWGC list of Dowsett's, Where can I find any information on him please,,
    Dowsett's have a link to my family tre and would like to see if he is connected,,,
    Please....
     
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    Hello and Welcome Robert C|:-)

    Moff, I think the IWM has the name wrong, as you can see it clearly in Muggy's picture (which you found), and it is A J Dowsett.

    Odd how the CWGC does not have details of the death.

    Would the London Transport Museum be able to help?

    Anc has London Transport London Transport Staff Records - where a John Dowsett is being employed as a tram driver (badge number 21848) on 24/4/1906

    I can find a John Dowsett on the 1911 census, who is a tram driver
    RG14 PN7294 SN39 - 19 Daleview Road, Tottenham
    John Dowsett b1873
    Emily Jane wife b1877
    Arthur Leonard b1908
    Elsie Margery 5 months
     
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    This site has info on the West Ham Tram Depot
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    http://www.transporttrust.com/heritage-sites/heritage-detail/west-ham-tram-depot
    But it does not help with the original question
     
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    I can't understand why the IWM has the wrong name when it is so clear on the memorial - especially as MollyMay has found records for John Dowsett which confirm there was a person by that name working on the trams.

    The IWM site does quote its source of information as the Essex Chronicle for Friday, 11 November 1921. The Essex Chronicle is on the BNA site under the title of the Chelmsford Chronicle (that was the paper's original title), so I looked at the article in the hope it might help - but, sadly, it doesn't.
    Chelmsford Chronicle 11th November 1921
    A memorial to the men of the West Ham Tramway Department who fell in the ar was unveiled on Sunday at the entrance to the Tramway Depot at Plaistow, in the presence of several thousand residents, by the Mayor, Mr D. J. Davis. The memorial was dedicated by Canon T. Guy Rogers, M. C., vicar of West Ham. Following the service wreaths were placed on the memorial by the Mayor on behalf of the Town Council, and by various branches of the tramway service.

    PS Welcome to Top Dog C|:-)
     
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    There must have been many reasons for error when gathering names for Memorials. A newspaper does seem to be a rather 'iffy' source tho'.

    This site has threads of similar reading where-in the people have been able to have errors put right, although etching/ engraving probably isn't included but a bit of 'fill-in' for a wrong letter should be do-able.
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    http://www.genealogy-specialists.com/threads/cwgc-conflicting-info.7600/
    #20 + #22
     
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    Many thanks,,,
     
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    Many thanks all,,
     
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    Have found an, A.J.Dowsett on CWGC site, only one that came up, ex RN, will have to do some research to see if he is the one on memorial,,
    Many thanks all for your help,,,
     
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    Do let us know what you find and if he does link to your tree.
     
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    MollyMay, Have found another possible Dowsett he is a J D Dowsett living Barking, KIA 1917 buried Achicourt Rd Cemetery, Achicourt,, not found link yet, but seems as living Barking may be the one on the memorial could be a mistake in the A being a D,,, But would have thought widow would have noticed,, regards,,
     

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    He looks a possible.

    I can find his birth (1887) and his marriage (1914) and him in 1901 but crucially not in 1911 so we could see just what his occupation was:headbang:.
     
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    Hello,,
    Do the Attached census match your details 1911 gives Postal Sorter,, living Corfield st Bethnal Green,,, regards
     

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    No - I saw that one but found in 1901 a Dowsett family in Barking
    55 Harpour Road, Barking, Romford.
    RG13/1654/128/42
    Joseph head b1859 gas stoker
    Eugene wife b1858
    Eugene b1884 laundress
    Joseph b1887 Office boy at tea warehouse
    Lily b1890
    John b1892
    Harry b1894
    All born Barking

    This family can be found in 1911 RG14 PN9916 SN138 110 Glenny Rd, Barking
    but no Eugene b1884 or Joseph.

    The birth I found in March qtr 1887 Romford 4a 356 for Joseph Daniel Dowsett has mmn Featherstonhaugh (using the GRO index)

    There is a marriage in West Ham(reg district) 4a 40 March qtr 1882 for Joseph Dowsett and Julia Featherstonhaugh - on the 1911 census Eugene is now called Julia, although Eugenie/Eugene on the 1891 and 1901 census
    (daughter Eugene was registered as Eugenia Mary Ann in 1883)

    I still cannot find this Joseph in 1911:headbang:
     

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