what happened to Ann Carter?

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  1. WelchRegLost

    WelchRegLost Well-Known Member

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    Aged 23 Ann Cartwright marries George Carter (a widower) in 1861 in Wolverhampton

    They have two children Isaac (B 1861) and Harriett Elizabeth (b 1865).

    1871 Census both children are living with George and his children from previous marriage along with "new wife"? Elizabeth. Meanwhile Ann can be found as a pauper inmate of the Wolverhampton workhouse where 3 weeks later she gives birth to Thomas Carter and names George as the father on the birth cert.

    forward to dec 1880 George Carter marries Elizabeth Gwilliam in Wolverhampton

    I am therefore assuming that Ann died between 1871 and 1880 but cannot find a suitable death.
     
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    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    Nor can I -could poor Ann have been detained in the workhouse indefinitely and after 7 years George saw fit to remarry?
    Have you found the child Thomas born in 1871 in any further census?
     
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    WelchRegLost Well-Known Member

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    1881 Census there is no Ann Carter in the workhouse, there is a Thomas Carter aged 9 a scholar born in Wolverhampton.

    That is all i have been able to find so not sure if it is the right Thomas
     
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    A possible for Thomas in 1891
    RG12/2362/14/22 - not that it helps as he is a single labourer boarding in Smethwick
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    Unless she married....

    Bigamy = poor man's - or woman's - divorce ;)
     
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    WelchRegLost Well-Known Member

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    Hadn't thought of that :rolleyes:
     
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    There is a marriage in Sep qtr 1876 Wolverhampton 6b 624 to either a Charles Bound, or Benjamin Petcher. Could be bigamy poor woman. Also not sure if these deaths are any good. 1. March qtr 1872 West Bromwich 6b 506
    age 35. 2 Dec qtr 1880 Stafford 6b 9. Age 42 not sure about the registration districts though. :)
     
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    Thank you very much. I had missed that marriage and the deaths are possibilities as the extended family moved around a lot and she could of been with them
     
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    Fingers crossed one of them will be useful :)
     
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    Thomas CARTER's baptism took place at Wolverhampton St John on 15 August 1871, son of George & Ann CARTER, Union Workhouse, Moulder. Looking at the 1871 census record for Ann CARTER in the Workhouse, she has two children with her, Harriet aged 5 & John aged 1. Have I got the correct Ann CARTER here, because if daughter Harriet is with father George in the 1871 census, she is unlikely to be with mother Ann in the Workhouse in 1871. Looking at the 1871 census record for Isaac CARTER born c1861, I cannot find a daughter Harriet in the same household. There is a George CARTER, aged 42, Iron Caster, born Willenhall, with wife Elizabeth aged 57, daughter Ann, aged 19, daughter Hannah, aged 12 and son Isaac, aged 9. Is this the George CARTER in the 1871 census you refer to in your first post?

    Janet
     
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    This could perhaps be relevant as to why Ann eventually ended up in the Workhouse. Article in the Wolverhampton Chronicle & Staffs Advertiser dated 17 June 1863 to the effect that at the Petty Sessions a charge of assault was brought by Ann CARTER, a married woman, against her husband George CARTER of Willenhall, Locksmith. The recommendation of the Bench was that, as there was fault on both sides, the charge was withdrawn, and both parties agreed to live together more comfortably.

    Janet
     

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