Where are you Ann Smith in 1871

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  1. WelchRegLost

    WelchRegLost Well-Known Member

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    Sorry this is a long post, but is so to give as much information as I can. I am trying to find Ann Smith and her family in the 1871 census and help very much appreciated. upload_2018-1-9_17-6-0.png upload_2018-1-9_17-6-41.png

    1911 Census RG14PN17070 RG78PN1052 RD369 SD5 ED18 SN44

    Ann Smith Widow aged 83 Living as a Boarder with her Daughter Mary Ann Boswell. Address 29 Miner Street Wolverhampton. Place of birth Milford Staffs

    1901 Census RG13 2682 37 18

    Ann Smith Head Widow aged 68 Address 35 Miner Street Wolverhampton, Also there her daughter Mary Ann Boswell, son in law Arthur Boswell, two of their children and her Grandson Timothy Yates. Ann Smith place of birth Milford Staffs

    1891 Census RG12 2235 59 29

    Ann Smith Head Widow aged 58 Address 35 Miner Street Wolverhampton. Also there her Daughters Kate Yates and Mary Ann Smith, her grandson Timothy Yates and a boarder Arthur Boswell, Place of birth Milford Staffs.

    1881 Census RG11 2805 101 46

    Ann Smith Head Widow Aged 48 Address 35 Miner Street Wolverhampton, also there her son James Smith and daughters Kate and Mary Smith and a Lodger George Owen. Place of birth Milford Staffs

    1871 WHERE ARE’T THOU ANN SMITH AND FAMILY?

    1861 Baptism of James Smith

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    1861 Census RG09 2011 24 8

    Ann Smith Wife Aged 32 Address 41 Paradise Road Pelsall Staffs, Also there William Smith Husband aged 36, Sons William, John and Joseph and daughters Ann and Mary J, Place of birth Bloxwich Staffs

    1851 Census HO107 1999 592 32

    Ann Smith wife Aged 21 Address Milford Staffs, Also there William Smith Husband aged 28, Sons Henry (Harry) and William. Place of Birth Milford Staffs

    1846 Marriage of William Smith (Adult) and Ann Benbow (Minor) in Baswich both living in Milford


    1841 Census HO107 973 (BOOK 2) 12 18

    Ann Benbow aged 12 Address Milford Staffs, father Richard, mother Elizabeth.

    1829 Baptism of Anna Benbow

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    GrannyBarb Custodian of the Family Accounts

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    Sorry, I don't have subs to lookup refs. Do we know husband William's profession or anything about his death?
     
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    WelchRegLost Well-Known Member

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    Depending on which census you look at either a Labourer or Ag Lab or on James' marriage cert a Farmer. As to his death there are too many possibilities to look at
     
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    GrannyBarb Custodian of the Family Accounts

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    :oops: They never make it easy, do they?
    Given all the Latin on the certs - were they Catholic?
    (Just trying to think of anything to narrow the search).
     
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    Those baptisms are in Catholic Churches but the marriages take place in CoE Churches so it is a right mix :headbang:
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Small question..the baptism of James Smith 1861. Who is Jacobus Smith?
    Also, just as Barb, I also don't have any subs, so looking up a census is near impossible with only refs given.
    I will puddle around as best I can though on the 1871.
     
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    Jacobus is the Latin for James
     
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    WelchRegLost Well-Known Member

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    I didn't put anything else in to try and keep the post short, if more detail is need I can add it
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    I read the baptism (cant read Latin) as James son of Jacobus Smith and Ann Smith (Benbow):confused:
     
  10. Sis

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    I read the baptism for James as:

    Jacobus (James) Smith son of Guglielmus (though it looks like there's an i at the end) (William) Smith and Anna Smith (Benbow).

    I noticed the Guglielmus (Latin for William) and remembered my Guillaume (French for William) Jaques that I have.
     
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    Told you I cant read Latin..:rolleyes:
     
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    I can't either AM, it was the Guglielmus that caught my eye. For once I remembered my (or I should say OH's) Guillaume.
     
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    Me neither, but I grew up in Texas, so have a lot of Espanol (Spanish). ;)

    Smiths. We all got 'em. Gotta love 'em.
     
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  14. MollyMay

    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    Well I tried everything I can think of - Ann no surname just pob, same for Kate.
    Looked in Willenhall (Kate's and Mary's pob) nothing:headbang: nor Wolverampton:headbang:

    I did try, with no luck, to find Miner Street in 1871:headbang:

    I gave it my best shot:(
     
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    I assume you have discounted the return for Stone RG10/2822 page 42, which shows Ann Smith widow and 12 years old daughter Mary. Can't decipher Ann's POB beyond its somewhere in Staffordshire
     
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    I read it as Chebsey, Stafford.

    "Chebsey is a small village in Staffordshire 2.5 miles southeast of Eccleshall on a confluence of Eccleshall water and the River Sow some 5 miles northwest of Stafford."
     
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    Obviously the wrong Ann then. Milford is just off the Rugeley-Stafford road.
     
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    I found 35 Miner Street in 1871.....RG10/2940/95/36 - doesn't help though.
     
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    Hi Everyone thank you for your help I will have a look at all the suggestions etc when I get home from work tonight
     
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    Thank you MollyMay
     
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