Who were Henry PAYNE's Parents?

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  1. andytw

    andytw New Member

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    Just getting the hang of this. I am descended from my 3G grandfather Henry Payne (1794-1872) of East Grinstead and his wife Dinah Spencer (1790-1874). He was a master cordwainer as were a number of his 8 children and 28 grandchildren. Six Payne's played first class cricket for Sussex between 1853 and 1866.

    I am looking for help to find Henry's parents. He was born in East Grinstead and I have two candidates: William and Hannah Payne had a son Henry baptised 15/6/1794 and John and Mary Payne had a son Henry 30/3/1794.
    Another Payne researcher has chosen William and built quite a family from there. The only clue I have to favour that choice is that the Henry born to John and Mary was privately baptised which could mean he was sickly.

    I just published a story of my East Grinstead Payne family in the Sussex Family History group journal which is what directed me to this forum.
    Can anybody help?
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    Hi Andy - welcome to the forum! :D

    I have moved your query to a thread it its own so as to avoid confusion with the other PAYNE thread.

    Good luck with your research! :)
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    Having a private baptism does not necessarily mean that the babe was sickly - it could mean any number of things. I have tried to see if there was a corresponding burial but no luck. :(

    Do the naming patterns in the family help to establish which one it could be?

    Back in the day, these were followed:

    First son was named after his father's father.
    Second son was named after his mother's father.
    Third son was named after his father.
    Fourth son was named after his father's oldest brother.
    Fifth son was named after his father's 2nd oldest brother or mother's oldest brother.

    First daughter was named after her mother's mother.
    Second daughter was named after her father's mother.
    Third daughter was named after her mother.
    Fourth daughter was named after her mother's oldest sister.
    Fifth daughter is named after her mother's 2nd oldest sister or father's oldest sister.
     
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    burt Where there's a will there's a way!

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    On the face of it comparing the children of Henry and Dinah and of Henry and
    Sarah and the two sets of parents Willam and Hannah and John and Mary,
    my gut feeling is that your Henry is the son of William and Hannah.
    Henry and Dinah's are in some instances named from Dinah's father, Richard
    and her brother Joseph.
    However, Henry and Sarah's eldest child is Mary Jendon. John Payne
    marries Mary Jendon in 1794 at West Hoathley, so fairly certainly your
    Henry is the son of William and Hannah (Spenser).
     
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    I have looked at family names for clues but this did not indicate any preference for either prospective parents. However I did not follow your formula so I will look again, thanks.
     
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