William James and Nanny Pascoe Emigration etc

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  1. Genie1

    Genie1 Cornish to the Core

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    My friend is looking for information about the above.
    Although they lived in Camborne , Cornwall, they married in Iowa County,Wisconsin, on the 8th March 1848. Those details are on familysearch but no other information. Will their parents name be on the certificate? Her name was Ann.
    Nanny/Ann parents are Nicholas and Maryanne/Marianne. Cornwall OPC has Nanny baptised 1826 at Camborne.
    My friend can't find Ann's emigration details to the USA and she knows nothing about William other than he was born in Cornwall, according to the 1861 and later Cornwall censuses.
    In 1850 he was in the USA living at Benton,Lafayette,Wisconson with his wife Ann and daughter Mary Ann James. The child was born in 1849 and died 9th August 1850 in the US. A son William John,was born in1852 in the US.
    According to the 1861 census Wiliam and Ann had a son born in Cornwall in 1858 ,so their passage to home must be between 1850 and 1858.
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    Although Joseph is recorded as being aged 3 in the 1861 census, giving him a possible birth year of 1858 (1861-3=1858) his birth was registered in the September quarter of 1857, (Redruth registration district, volume 5C, page 265) thus bringing it down another year.

    A little bit narrower.... :)
     
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    Not sure if this will help or confuse as you said there was a Son William John born 1852 in the US.

    There is a baptism on FS with the following
    Elizabeth Ann JAMES
    Father William James
    Mother Nanny James
    Date 19/Sept/1851

    Truro Cornwall

    EDIT looks like mothers maiden name is FARR looking at the gro index
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Ancestry has record individually for Ann Pascoe & William James 11 Nov. 1848

    Notes: Due to Wisconsin State law, we provide only uncertified copies of vital records. The full record available for purchase usually includes details not found in the index.Ann's shows possile spouse as:-
    MARRIAGE INDEX RECORD
    James, William
    Date: 1848-11-08
    County: Iowa

    County:Iowa
    Volume Number:1
    Page Number:123
    Collection:Wisconsin Pre-1907 Vital Records Collection
    CLocation:Wisconsin Historical Society Library, 2nd Floor, Madison, Wisconsin

    Price: $15.00
    Orders are usually mailed or emailed within two weeks of receipt.
    How to Purchase a Copy
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    historydocs@wisconsinhistory.org

    To view the full record on microfilm, visit the Library at the Wisconsin Historical Society in Madison, Wisconsin. Print out this index page and present it to the librarian. The full record may include details not found in the index.


    This would explain why Family Search cannot show an image.
     
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    Genie1 Cornish to the Core

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    Nanny James's maiden name was Handcock according to my friend.
    I can't see my friend wishing to buy the certificate but will be seeing her in the week so will let her know.
    I still can't find any immigration details for Nanny/Ann Pascoe.
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    I’m confused....Wasn’t she baptised in the name of Nanny Pascoe, daughter of Nicholas and Maryanne/Marianne 1826 Camborne?
     
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    :oops:My mistake.Her maiden name was Pascoe.
     
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    Genie1 Cornish to the Core

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    I looked at the 1850 census which has William (28),Ann (25) and Mary A James (6 months old) but unfortunately there is nothing about the year that they emigrated.
    One thing that I noticed in the column of 'Value Real Estate Owned' of William James is 600. So I presume that he owned the house?
    Why do that If you are going to return home unless his wife got homesick.
     
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    The only marriage I can find on FamilySearch is the one that Ma-dotcom found on 8 November 1848, not 8 March 1848 as in your original post.

    As her name changes from Nanny to Ann, I wonder if this could be her arriving in New York on 14 October 1848 on board the ship Lady Peel which sailed from Penzance:
    Nancy Pascoe, aged 23
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    There is also Ann Pascoe spinster arriving on the Constitution 9/9/1847. However her age is stated as 25. (Castle Garden)
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    As for William... Castle Garden has really only one that could be him...that's if his age 28 in 1850 is correct.
    William James age 23 arrived on the Alexander 15/11/1847. Age out a bit. There are two others but they were born in Ireland.
     
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    Genie1 Cornish to the Core

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    You are correct. The marriage did take place on the 8 November 1848 and not March.
    Is there any more information on that manifest?
    It is a pity that Castle Garden didn't have more informattion about their passengers.
     
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    Unfortunately, no other information at all.
     
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    Tried to order the certifictate and it says
    'Object reference not set to an instance of an object.'
    Everything filled in correctly.
     
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    Genie1 Cornish to the Core

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    Not able to order the certificate from the UK.
    Is it possible for someone to find the incoming passenger list for the above couple between 1852 and 1861.
    They were in Camborne,Cornwall in the 1861 census.
    It may be of some help to see who they were going to on their return.
     
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    GrannyBarb Custodian of the Family Accounts

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    Would you like me to try to buy the digital copy of the marriage and email it to you?
     
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    Genie1 Cornish to the Core

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    Thank-you for your offer.It is kind of you.
    This is the reply that she had.
    ''You might be able to get an order to go through our system if you use an U.S. mailing address for your shipping address and by requesting a digital copy of the record, which we would send via email. If that doesn't work, let me know and I will give you some options for ordering the record through our financial services department.''
    My friend replied that there is no address for her to contact in the US and that she only want to know the name of the groom's father.
    She is waiting for a reply to that email now.
     
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    Genie1 Cornish to the Core

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    Familysearch has attached William James born England in 1922 to Ann Moody and they appear in other US censuses,so can't be the William and Ann that I am looking for.
    Back to the drawing board.
     
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    Genie1 Cornish to the Core

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    I should add that William and Ann (nee Pascoe) James were in Wisconsin when they married but were not those in the 1850 census,so where where the Cornish William and Ann in 1850 census?
     
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    Going back to Ann Pascoe.
    When she emigrated would Ann have a passport and is there a way that I can find out where she stayed when she landed?
    Would Ann,as a single woman,stayed with her future husband and come to that-where was William and did he have a passport.
    The useful thing with Ellis Isalnd records is that you can see where people were going to and where they came from, but Castle Garden have many blank entries.
     

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