William James Guy D'elsa

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    Makes you wonder why they married in New Zealand o_O
     
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    Henry died in 1856 of consumption just before Helena was born in December
     
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    D’Elsa, Geoghegan, Lloyd-Blood, Findlater=:eek:
    They all seem to marry every which way. Three wives, two husbands, sisters, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, California....I’m lost :headbang:
    Marry the same person twice without one in the middle....o_O
     
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    On the border crossing that Jellylegs found, Sophia is destined to Grimsby, Ontario as a domestic with $500.00.o_O In William Guy's WW1 service file, he gives an address in Grimsby. Just a coincidence or did Sophia's arrival in 1919 hasten first wife Dorothy's departure in 1920.

    On her arrival in New York in Oct. 1919 she's in transit to Grimsby. She
    gives her occupation as none and her last residence as London.
     
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    Stickybeak...haven't heard that expression in a while, always makes
    me smile. I lived in Oz for a bit.

    I found it interesting as well. It looks like that property now has an
    estimated value of 1.8M.:eek:

    It seems like I only read this post a minute ago, while I was humming
    and hawing over a reply, and Jellylegs has come back with lots of goodies. Well done.:)
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    This name was enjoyed on a fairly large thread some years back, but I can't remember which one, I could guess, as I haven't been about much on forums but a google would probably tell me ;)
     
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    Tis OK. It was the Max Joseph D'Elsa marriage is where I saw it, somewhere yesterday.
     
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    And then another birth in New Zealand to Max and Eleanor (Helena) in 1885 of Harold Von Brandenstein D’Elsa. These D’Elsa’s are all over the place.
     
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    Look you lovely people. I am only just reeling from finding uncle William and now you present me with all this! LOL.
    All my life, all we knew was William grew up in Wales/Bristol, had a very tough life, his father died when he was five and William was sent to a children's home. Some years later his mother remarried. On leaving school William spent sometime down the coal mines and worked as a tramcar conductor before leaving for Ohio aged 18, to join his uncle (who had settled there a few years before). However WW1 came along a few months later. William joined the CEF and was posted to England. Sadly William was discharged after just three months suffering epilepsy or loss of conscious attacks. William was an ambitious chap, it seems that after just a few months he returned back to Wales to marry his girl friend and old family friend. The two settled in Canada, where William was supposed to be working on Niagara Falls. They had two babies together both called William James Guy, one born and died 1916, the other born 8 June 1919 and died 24 May 1920. Later that year Dorothy arrives back in the UK alone. In 1924 she is awarded a degree nisi.
    This was the information I had and some of this I had got help with. Then I had the family recollections and their desperate attempts to find him or what happened to him. We also had paid genealogists to help.
    Who would have thought I would ever find out so much. I am back to taking a breath and going slowly through all the information here Thank you so much and now Will Canada.jpg I introduce to you my uncle...
     
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    I wonder did they marry as well. Although when my mother says Will married bigamously it must have been with this wife, she seemed to say he got into trouble about it! By the time he married the third wife he was legally divorced, that's if he knew that.
     
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    From being a tramcar conductor and coal miner?
     
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    Poor Sophie by the time she met my uncle, she seemed to have little family, her father died when she was young and her mother in 1903. I guess their was the step father.
     
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    My mother always said Will married a rich Irish girl but in reality she was anything but Irish!
     
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    Yes, I did think that he had rather varied occupations and wondered if what we had was all wrong - hope not.
     
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    That's what I like to hear :eek:
     
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    I think Max D'Elsa died in 1887
     
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