William T Ryan

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  1. Genie1

    Genie1 Well-Known Member

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    Is it possible to find a marriage and divorce of William T
    1940 census William born 1920 in Indiana is divorced.
    He is living with his parents Ethel and Edward D Ryan, ( Edward is sometimes Edwin )
    The address is Cleveland City,Cuyahoga,Ohio.
    The family are living in Marion,Indiana in 1920. Edward is Edwin in this census.
    I have found other details about this family and just want to know details of marriage and divorce to tie up looose ends.
     
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    I couldn't find any records online that cover the right place and time. I take that back. According to the wiki on FamilySearch, there is one marriage collection on Ancestry that might have it.

    Assuming he married and divorced in Cleveland area, here is the link for the County Clerk of Courts :
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    http://coc.cuyahogacounty.us/
    Also, sometimes one party would go out to Reno, NV long enough to establish residency, then get the divorce out there - but doubtful given Wm T's job.

    I looked in Cleveland directory. 1940 had a Wm Ryan with wife Mary - not at same address as his parents, though, and profession didn't match.

    Sorry not more help.
     
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    Tried searching in free newspaper archives. Not much there. Don't know about the paid sites.
     
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    William T Ryan Snr birth 1920 Indianapolis death 22 January 2004, father Edwin mother Ethel spouse Hilda Laverne Ryan (Griffin). Children, Sam, Tom, Mike.
    Macon Telegraph, Georgia.
    Hilda died 2002 The Macon telegraph. Born Vidalia. Age 80 Father Dewiit Griffin mother Lillian Wooten Griffin
    Family Search Genealogy Bank Obituaries
    Cant find a marriage for them though
     
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    The transcription of his WW2 army record says he is married. So someone has got it wrong, no original shown I'm afraid. It's on FMP if you want to look at it.
     
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    On the application for their sons marriage, it states that he, the son is divorced as is his fiancé. That marriage license in dated 2007. The son is 53 years old, making his birth year c1954. So perhaps it is the second marriage for Hilda and William.
    However there is another marriage licence in 1981 for another son giving both Hilda and William as parents. He was born in 1944. These two, the son and fiance are also divorced.
     
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    He of course may have remarried by then. Brain not working this morning, time to retreat.:D:rolleyes:
     
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    FMP has William T Ryan ,birth year 1918.birth state Indiana. Divorced without dependents.Enlisted 27 September 1941.Enlistment place.Ft Hayes Columbus Ohio
     
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    County clerk have divorce of William T Ryan in 1973.
     
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    Not the one I saw. Sorry computer closed down, can find it on my phone. From memory the one I saw was born Indiana 1922, so probably the wrong one.
     
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    William y probably married in the same area that he was in during the 1940 census but I can't find a marriage.
    1940 census asks for the residence 5 years earlier and the family were living in the same place.

    • Ohio
    • Cuyahoga
    • Cleveland City, Cleveland City, Ward 31
    • 92-821 Cleveland City Ward 31 (Tract G-9 - part)
     
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    Bearing in mind that he was only 20 in 1940.....and divorced.
     
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    Probably going off the wall but there is in 1940 a William Ryan age 20 born Indiana with wife Leola born Ohio age 21 and a son Robert W age 8 months Indiana.
    Indiana, Spencer.Hammond Township 74-7 Hammond Township .Newtonville.
    Probably completely wrong. Five years earlier he was living a Henry County Ohio.
    The only reason I wonder is, I have found a marriage of Robert Dennis Ryan whose parents are William T and Hilda Laverne
    in Ohio.
    Wrong middle name and mother. I can't find his birth.
    When does the 1950 US census appear?
     
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    If you know that William T’s parents are Edwin/Edward and Ethel then the person in post 13 can’t be yours as he can’t be in both places.
    What other info do you have on your William T, presumably Thomas. Do you know his parents/siblings names ?
    Ethel was born, according to 1940 in England.
     
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    Oops. Just reprimanded myself. :oops:
     
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    The only thing that i don't know about William was his marriage. and it was out of curiosity that I wanted to find it.
    I had an ancestor in two places on a census.Don't remember who it was.
     

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