Wolverhampton / Molineux

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    WelchRegLost Well-Known Member

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    The Molineux name originates from Benjamin Molineux, a successful local merchant (and a distant relative of the now extinct Earls of Sefton) who, in 1744, purchased land on which he built Molineux House (later converted to the Molineux Hotel which after a fire and being derelict for some years was converted to hold Wolverhampton Archives) and on which the stadium would eventually be built. The estate was purchased in 1860 by O.E. McGregor, who converted the land into a pleasure park open to the public. Molineux Grounds, as it was titled, included a wide range of facilities including an ice rink, a cycling track, a boating lake and, most crucially, an area for football.

    Posted to keep the thread on other halfs kind of on topic
     
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    @Bay Horse Molineux Fold is now under the part of the ring road called St Peter's
     
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    Ah, brilliant. Thank you. :)

    I've just had a very happy hour or so looking through old maps and reading about bicycles. :D:D
     
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    Ah the item Wolverhampton is famous for but most people living here have no clue about it
     
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    I have just got back from Wolverhampton Archives and looked at the 1871 map of Wolverhampton (Well actually it is such large scale it is on 50 pages of A0 paper or what ever the size was in 1871). I have some photos that I will upload if they are clear etc.
     
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    A couple of photos from the hand draw and water coloured maps
     
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    Extract form "The folds of Wolverhampton" by Anthony Perry

    Wadham's hill descended about 35 feet (11 metres) in height from it's junction with North Street, where there was a large area used for parking in front of the Molineux Hotel, and where a row of houses was actually called Molineux Fold.

    This is the only mention of Molineux Fold in that book
     
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    map circa 1850 showing Wadams Hill and it's junction with North Street along with a Molineux Court
     

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    These are wonderful, WRL. Thank you very much.
     
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    You're welcome, next time I am at the archives and have some spare time there i will have a look through their photo collection to see if they have any from that area of Wolverhampton
     
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    Ooh, yes please. :)
     
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    lostwolverhampton.co.uk/the-wolverhampton-inner-ring-road-is-no-friend-of-mine/

    Has some photos of that are from the 1950's
     
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    A good read.

    I've spent a lot of time on the LostWolverhampton site, but it helps to know what I'm looking for. :)

    When Harry Manning died in 1906, he was a publican in Alma Street. Unfortunately there appeared to be several pubs in that location... from there his family moved back to Newhampton Road. Between the wars our branch of the Mannings came up north. :)
     
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    Small world, my great grandparents lived in Alma Street 1885 to 1896.

    Although from memory (i would need to check ) there were two Alma streets at that time
     
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    Two Alma Streets! Nothing is ever easy, is it? :D
     
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    This hobby would be boring if it was easy :D
     
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    Probably does not add much as you would have 1901 census, but the 1900 & 1904 Kellys directories, which would refer to year before, show Henry Manning at the Stamford Arms 16 Lime St (still there but closed)
     
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    Thanks, Mike.
    Now, whereas there were two Alma Streets, there were also two Henry Mannings, publicans, around at the same time. I think that's the other 'Arry.

    In 1901 ours was living in Sherwood Street, again not far from Molineux - but the electoral roll for 1906 gives the 1901 address as a qualifying property along with 68 Alma Street. Pubhistory site states number 68 was the Ancient Briton Inn, which was closed by Wolverhampton & Dudley Brewery in 1906. BlackCountrypubs site gives the address as number 33. (Perhaps there were two...:sceptical:)
     
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    Ah so this from the 1896 Kelly's directory of Staffordshire give Henry Manning at Swan Garden Tavern 29 Lower Horseley Fields (page 509) is more than likely the other 'Arry
     
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    I was sort of right one is in the Horseley Field / Heath town borders the other still under Wolverhampton is in Willenhall
     
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