WW1 War Medals

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  1. Chimp

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    I have a question. Ancestry has Medal cards for WW1 service men and women for the UK.

    If a soldier was serving in another country say, Canada, would the servicemen still get medals?

    If so, where could you see the list of the medals they were awarded?

    If not, why not?
     
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    I'm not much help, but yes the servicemen still got medals. Ancestry ca does have a section saying Canadian military honours and awards citation cards but I have never used it. I made up a name and searched, but didn't find a lot. They would name an award, but maybe I didn't look at men who had won very much. My Dad never went overseas during WWII due to vision problems and I can't find him, although he did have some medals.
     
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    Sue is right there is a section for the Canadian medals on Ancestry and I have found one for my father in laws cousin but just at present I cant seem to download it to view or save.........Ancestry sometimes drives me mad its updating again, or else its another case of needing "new site" to view


    opened this time AHHHH!!
     
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    Thanks both. I have a couple killed while fighting for Canadian in WW1 and the CWGC doesn't give the medals they may have been awarded.
     
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    Hi Chimp
    there is also a section called Canada Militia and Defence Forces Lists 1832,1863-1939 and my soldiers medal entitlement was mentioned there
     
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    I don't have access to Ancestry so not sure any of mine would be there :oops:
     
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    names? will check for you
     
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    Thanks Sandie ;)

    Cadet Richard Clarence Hamar
    Died: June 4, 1918
    Regimental Number: 152564
    Regiment: Royal Flying Corps

    Private John Langslow
    Date of Birth: January 5, 1881
    Regimental Number: 463702
    Regiment: Canadian Infantry
    Battalion: 47th Battalion
     
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    There's a useful article called 'Researching Canadian Soldiers of the First World War' beginning here:

    http://
    regimentalrogue.com/misc/researching_first_world_war_soldiers_part1.htm

    The part about medals (part 12) includes this bit:

    'The CEF soldier's service record will normally include a copy of his medal card. Though cryptic, this card will show what medals and memorial items were awarded. Commonly, the issue of the British War Medal and Victory Medal are shown on these cards by a large hand-written "B" and "V", each with a check-mark through them.'​

    Digitisation of the service records is still underway. See the quotes from the Library and Archives Canada site given in Part 1 of the guide for more info.
     
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    Thank you Jane ;)
     
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    Quite a bit about him on Ancestry. Do you want it? Sadly nothing about medals though, may be not eligible.

    Can send via email to you if you care to advise details
     
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    Richard Clarence Hamers service records are on FMP he Transferred into the RAF here ....no details of medals on them though and none on Ancestry
     
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    Thanks Colin, I have evrything on Clarence now except his medals. Thanks for the offer though.

    Thank you for looking for me Sandie, much appriciated.

    I have FMP world sub, so have all his records from there.

    Thank you again ;)
     
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    John Langslows attestation form is on Canadian Library archives

    however couldn't see his name in the Medal records
     
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    OK
     
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    Thanks Sandie ;)
     
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    I wonder if no one applied for Johns medals he died in 1917 in France," instantly killed by the explosion of an enemy mortar bomb whilst in the trenches" poor lad so he should have been eligible for a medal...
     
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    had a look on the CanadianGreatWarProject but although they both have sheets nothing on medals...........but site is ongoing so might be worth a future look sometime
     
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    Thank you Sandie. Have now found a mention of their medals. A nice little lady ;) sent me a link to a .pdf file which was produced by the Sotheby’s auction house in 2006.

    On the site there is a discription of medals for sale, 2 lots of which are for
    Lieutenant A. J. Hamar & R. C. Hamer,

    A Great War Royal Flying Corps Casualty Group, Lieutenant A. J. Hamar, comprising British War and Victory Medals and Memorial Plaque, the first two good extremely fine, third set in brass cross shaped frame and polished, about very fine, offered with forwarding slip for the British War and Victory Medals, copies of letters of condolence from his commanding Officer Major J. E. A. Baldwin, R. S. Watson, Presbyterian Chaplain New Zealand Stationary Hospital, and his former Observer Lt. J. L. Trulock, a copy of his obituary from the "Radnor Express", April 26 1917 and R.F.C. cloth wings; together with a Canadian Memorial Cross, 152564 3-AM R. C. Hamer, extremely fine, with forwarding card, a copy of his obituary from the "Radnor Express", July 11 1918, and a silver and enamel R.A.F. sweetheart's brooch £500-700
     
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    Good job you can read it and not have to buy. Wonder why we can't find a medal card
     
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