Yet another Miss Smith c.1892

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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    May I once again ask for help here with a family 'Smith' ?

    First found when nosing around in doings of 2cx2r b.26 Jan. 1891 in Eastbourne Sussex. He had no wife, so thought to help him out there.

    1939 has him residing in Hailsham, an upholsterer & Mattress maker. Arthur D.(David) Hollebon. wife Lilian .b.24 Aug.1892
    maiden name 'Smith' - from 1914 marriage Eastbourne Sussex. Civil so also unhelpful.

    Next door is a Clement Smith b.1888 & Ada Smith b. 1900 [nee Langridge]married 1925 Eastbourne

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    Probate 1949 Brighton has Hubby Arthur E. Hollebon & dtr Doris Lilian now 'Girling' as executors.

    Arthur E. Probate 1961-12 May Lewes has Sidney Arthur Hollebon & Lilian Doris Girling as executors.

    Birth for Sidney A. seen at Wycombe 1916 but have no proof it's him.

    I've been all over the GRO & FreeBMD trying to fathom who her parents were. Did she tell truth about birth year?

    Any help at all so very much appreciated.

    This post begun at approx. 14.30 normal interruptions followed. Dinner hour also.
     
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    The 1921 Census has the couple living at 1 Sackville Road, Hailsham, Sussex, where it states that Arthur was manager of a Furniture Stores.

    Lilian's place of birth is recorded as being Colchester, Essex and their 5-year-old son Sidney's is recorded as being High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. This latter ties in with the birth that you found in 1916 @Ma-dotcom :)
     
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    There is a birth registration for a Lilian SMITH in the December quarter of 1892 in Colchester RD, volume 4a, page 547. Mother's maiden name is COLBORNE

    There are 3 other Lilian SMITH registrations in the area (1890 and 1894) but they show a middle name, which yours doesn't, so I reckon that it could be a safe bet.
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Brilliant Jan, thank you so much. I've just looked at Sidney as Arthur S in 1939 with wife Doris E. nee Smith. Married 7 Sep. 1939 Thorntton Heath, Surrey. Like I needed another one.
    Matters not what mumma was doing in Wycombe the lad seems the real deal.
    I just knew my problems would soon dissipate if I stopped b here. :D

    Thanks again for that birth reg. for Lilian, I hadn't had time to look there. Bonza stuff Jan.{-(^^)-}
     
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    You're welcome. :)
     
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    Lovey confirming find this morning.

    Name Lilian Smith
    Age in 1911 18
    Estimated Birth Year abt 1893
    Relation to Head Servant
    Gender Female
    Birth Place Colchester, Essex
    Civil parish Eastbourne
    County/Island Sussex
    Home of Mr & Mrs Thomas Weedon [or Wardon].

    Nicely placed for a meet & marry in Eastbourne 1914.
    Followed up with a Baptism:-
    Lilian Smith
    Baptism Date 6 Nov 1892
    Baptism Place Colchester, Christ Church With St Mary-At-The-Walls, Essex, England
    Father -Sidney Robert Smith
    Mother -Lizzie Smith ...who were duly married in Southampton
    Marriages Sep 1890
    SMITH Sidney Robert + COLBORNE Lizzie —Southampton 2c-75
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    I'd still be looking if not for the help of our Jan, & 1921 which I completely forgot about :rolleyes:

    Now I guess I should look up the newer miss Doris Edith Smith - Hollebon.:D
     
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