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Elaine Cottle

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Would it be possible to ask another question about another side of my family?
Isaac Smith birth 1816, Ann Smith 1816, married June 30th 1845. My question is who was Isaac Smth’s Parents? Coventry Warwickshire. Thankyou.
 
Issac Smith married Ann Satchwell 30/6/1845 at Holy Trinity, Coventry
his occupation was gardener and he was noted as of Cross Cheaping
Father's name given as John Smith also a gardener

Ann Satchwell, a servant also of Cross Cheaping father named as George Satchwell, a labourer.

Witnesses Charles Satchwell, Eliza Satchwell
 
There is a baptism for an Isaac Smith that took place on 2nd December 1816 in Coventry to a John and Mary. It is in the Non-Conformist registers and gives the religion as General Baptist.

This would make Isaac's age at his marriage as being 29, which is feasible as he was recorded as being of "full age". (21 and over)
 
Daft Bat said:
There is a baptism for an Isaac Smith that took place on 2nd December 1816 in Coventry to a John and Mary.
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The 1841 census shows the following:

John Smith, aged 59, Gardener
Isaac Smith, aged 24, Gardener
Mary Smith, aged 59

Living at Cross Cheaping, Holy Trinity, Coventry

Ref: piece 1153, Book 1, Folio 6, page 4
 
Perhaps confirmed by the 1841 census entry for Isaac Smith, living with John and Mary Smith in Cross Cheaping
HO107 piece 1153 book 1 folio 6 page 4


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Moving on - or back - from this, there is a marriage that took place at Holy Trinity between John Smith and Mary Tylar on 18th February 1805 - the same Church as Isaac.

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The surname Tylar could also be spelled as Tyler - or even Taylor back in the mists of time....
 
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Daft Bat said:
Moving on - or back - from this, there is a marriage that took place at Holy Trinity between John Smith and Mary Tylar on 18th February 1805 - the same Church as Isaac.

Edited to add:
The surname Tylar could also be spelled as Tyler - or even Taylor back in the mists of time....
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Wow. Thankyou. My Great Great grandmother called my great grandfather Herbert Henry Smith the black sheep of the family as they were very religious family. The oldest son Arthur was a missionary. Learning so much more. Thankyou Elaine.
 
The 1851 census has Isaac, Ann plus 2 children and Ann's mother Susan Satchwell living at Little Park Street, St Michaels, Coventry, where Isaac is now a Hand Loom Weaver.

Ref: piece 2067, folio 267, page 10.

This neatly confirms the marriage above.

The 1861 census (piece 2203, folio 11, page 18) shows Isaac working as a Silk Weaver.

Silk weaving started in England in Coventry and there is an interesting article about it here: http://www.denspages.co.uk/roots/weaving.htm

Isaac probably found that weaving paid a lot better than gardening, especially with the increase of the weaving trade in Coventry. :)
 
MollyMay said:
Issac Smith married Ann Satchwell 30/6/1845 at Holy Trinity, Coventry
his occupation was gardener and he was noted as of Cross Cheaping
Father's name given as John Smith also a gardener

Ann Satchwell, a servant also of Cross Cheaping father named as George Satchwell, a labourer.

Witnesses Charles Satchwell, Eliza Satchwell
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Ann’s parents were George and Susanna Satchwell. Not sure who Charles and Eliza would be?
 
Daft Bat said:
The 1851 census has Isaac, Ann plus 2 children and Ann's mother Susan Satchwell living at Little Park Street, St Michaels, Coventry, where Isaac is now a Hand Loom Weaver.

Ref: piece 2067, folio 267, page 10.

This neatly confirms the marriage above.

The 1861 census (piece 2203, folio 11, page 18) shows Isaac working as a Silk Weaver.

Silk weaving started in England in Coventry and there is an interesting article about it here: http://www.denspages.co.uk/roots/weaving.htm

Isaac probably found that weaving paid a lot better than gardening, especially with the increase of the weaving trade in Coventry. :)
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Thankyou.
 
Elaine Cottle said:
Ann’s parents were George and Susanna Satchwell. Not sure who Charles and Eliza would be?
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Could be a brother of Ann & his wife, could be her brother & sister, could be cousins, aunt & uncle... More research required. ;)
 
Sadly, Isaac appears in the Foleshill Workhouse in 1871 where he is a Pauper Inmate with the previous occupation of Ribbon Weaver.

Ref: piece 3178, folio 128, page 10

More can be found about this workhouse at:
Code: 
https://www.workhouses.org.uk/Foleshill/
 
It looks like he died in 1865, aged 50, the death being registered in the Foleshill Registration District, July - September quarter, volume 6D, page 245.

The certificate can be ordered in the same way as the marriage certificate from your other thread but should cost £7 and be emailed to you as a pdf. :)
 
Daft Bat said:
Sadly, Isaac appears in the Foleshill Workhouse in 1871 where he is a Pauper Inmate with the previous occupation of Ribbon Weaver.

Ref: piece 3178, folio 128, page 10

More can be found about this workhouse at:
Code: 
https://www.workhouses.org.uk/Foleshill/
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It’s terribly sad. I know I have letters from my great great grandmother Ann.
She was still working in a large house as a maid at the age of 79. At that stage there was no elderly people benefit. To help them. Ann lived to a very good age of 107 and a half.
 
Daft Bat said:
It looks like he died in 1865, aged 50, the death being registered in the Foleshill Registration District, July - September quarter, volume 6D, page 245.

The certificate can be ordered in the same way as the marriage certificate from your other thread but should cost £7 and be emailed to you as a pdf. :)
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Thankyou.
 
I would imagine that this is your Isaac, the beginning of difficult times for him.
Coventry Herald 1849
Whereas, a Petition of ISAAC SMITH, of Keresley, near Coventry, the County of Warwick, Market Gardener and Ribbon Weaver, lately Little Park-Street, Coventry aforesaid, Shopkeeper, Seedsman, and Market Gardener, an Insolvent Debtor, having been filed in the County Court of Warwickshire, holden at Coventry, in the sad County, and an Interim Order for Protection from Process having been given to the said Issac Smith, under the provisions of the Statutes that case made and provided, the said Isaac Smith is hereby required to appear in the said Court to be holden at Coventry aforesaid, before the Judge of the said Court, on the Twentyfifth day of April next, at Ten o'Clock in the Forenoon precisely, for his First Examination touching his Debts, Estate, and Effects, and to be further dealt with according to the of the said Statutes. And Notice is hereby given, that the choice of Assignees is to take place at the time so appointed. All Persons indebted to the said Isaac Smith, or who have any of his Effects, are not to pay or deliver the same but to Mr Thomas Ball Troughton, the Clerk of the said Court, at his Office at Little Park-Street, Coventry, in the said County.
J. HOLT, Gosford-Street, Coventry, Petitioner's Attorney. March 29, 1849.
 
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