Thomas Chasmer d 1834 Bermondsey London UK

[Godfrey Chasmer]

In some ways Thomas Chesmer seems a possibility. One concern though is that the Chesmer family do seem fairly wealthy. Would one of the sons become a shoemaker I wonder.....

Googling there is a wikitree maybe worth a look - with a John Linley Chesmer, supposedly another son and a brother to George Augustus Chesner. No mention of a Thomas though.

Have you got a link to the info in John Linley Chesmer please?

 

[Grizel]

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Chesmer-3

I have no idea of the accuracy of the information in that tree. It is rather lacking in sources.

 

[Godfrey Chasmer]

In some ways Thomas Chesmer seems a possibility. One concern though is that the Chesmer family do seem fairly wealthy. Would one of the sons become a shoemaker I wonder.....

Googling there is a wikitree maybe worth a look - with a John Linley Chesmer, supposedly another son and a brother to George Augustus Chesner. No mention of a Thomas though.

There are a couple of trees around having Thomas Chasmer and Ann Primmer as his parents. Looking through the family there are a few names repeated down through the generations. Thomas born 1755 has a brother Robert. Thomas and Ann Primmer had a son Robert. They also had a Charles.
Your Thomas(1834) had a Thomas who also had a Charles.
Robert son of Thomas (1755) had a daughter Charlotte, who I believe emigrated to Australia. William seems to be repeated as well. So you see names repeating quite regularly which kind of points to Thomas and Ann Primmer being the ancestors. I know, no actual proof. As for Sarah, Thomas had an Aunt Sally. Sally and Sarah are often used for the one person. Ie baptised Sarah but called Sally.
All of the above seem to be born in Benenden.

Thanks I'll follow this up

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Chesmer-3

I have no idea of the accuracy of the information in that tree. It is rather lacking in sources.

Brilliant - thank you this looks very interesting

 

[Godfrey Chasmer]

My 3rd great grandfather was Thomas Chasmer. My query is to find his DOB, place of birth or parents’ names.

He lived his adult life in the Bermondsey area. He married Ann Robertson, a widow born Willis, on 3dec1810 at St James, Paddington. Ann was born on 11feb1776 in Bermondsey.

Thomas died on 16oct1834 and was buried on 26oct1834 at St John Horsleydown Bermondsey. The death certificate gives his age as 55. So if this info is accurate he was born between 16oct1779 – 15oct1780.

Thomas and Ann had four children but none of their birth or marriage info gives any guide as to Thomas’s birth details including Sarah Ann’s which was registered at the Protestant Dissenters' Registry.

Thomas was convicted of larceny and amongst the court documents is one dated 5oct1821 which gives Thomas’s age as 41. If this is accurate then his birth dated was between 5oct1780 – 4oct1781.

So from the calculations from the death certificate and larceny document there is a DOB between 5oct1780 – 15oct1780.

There is little evidence of Chasmers in Bermondsey before the 19c.

However, there is a large group of families in and around the Benenden and Tenterden areas of Kent from the 1500s onwards. The name CHASMER is often recorder as CHASMAR and other variations.

There is a Thomas CHASMER the son of Thomas Chasmer and Ann Primer who was baptised on the 11may1781 in Benenden. I can find no other life information on this Thomas (his DOB, marriage, death etc). So he could have been born in the window of dates I have for the Thomas in Bermondsey. In both cases there is no mention of another Christian name.

Thomas of Kent has siblings but Catherine was the one born before him having been christened on 11feb1780. Catherine was buried on the 19feb1780 so it is possible that the birth was shortly before the christening. So this does not discount Thomas being born between 5oct1780 – 15oct1780 although the dates are tight.

So back to my query. Can anyone help finding info to link these two Thomases or to find birth information on the Thomas of Bermondsey.

member: 3460"]My 3rd great grandfather was Thomas Chasmer. My query is to find his DOB, place of birth or parents’ names.

He lived his adult life in the Bermondsey area. He married Ann Robertson, a widow born Willis, on 3dec1810 at St James, Paddington. Ann was born on 11feb1776 in Bermondsey.

Thomas died on 16oct1834 and was buried on 26oct1834 at St John Horsleydown Bermondsey. The death certificate gives his age as 55. So if this info is accurate he was born between 16oct1779 – 15oct1780.

Thomas and Ann had four children but none of their birth or marriage info gives any guide as to Thomas’s birth details including Sarah Ann’s which was registered at the Protestant Dissenters' Registry.

Thomas was convicted of larceny and amongst the court documents is one dated 5oct1821 which gives Thomas’s age as 41. If this is accurate then his birth dated was between 5oct1780 – 4oct1781.

So from the calculations from the death certificate and larceny document there is a DOB between 5oct1780 – 15oct1780.

There is little evidence of Chasmers in Bermondsey before the 19c.

However, there is a large group of families in and around the Benenden and Tenterden areas of Kent from the 1500s onwards. The name CHASMER is often recorder as CHASMAR and other variations.

There is a Thomas CHASMER the son of Thomas Chasmer and Ann Primer who was baptised on the 11may1781 in Benenden. I can find no other life information on this Thomas (his DOB, marriage, death etc). So he could have been born in the window of dates I have for the Thomas in Bermondsey. In both cases there is no mention of another Christian name.

Thomas of Kent has siblings but Catherine was the one born before him having been christened on 11feb1780. Catherine was buried on the 19feb1780 so it is possible that the birth was shortly before the christening. So this does not discount Thomas being born between 5oct1780 – 15oct1780 although the dates are tight.

So back to my query. Can anyone help finding info to link these two Thomases or to find birth information on the Thomas of Bermondsey.

FURTHER POST 10dec23
Thank you to everyone who has contributed facts relating to my problem. They haven't enabled me to find the information I am looking for but it has given much enjoyment following the various leads and I will continue following them up. After one reply I managed to compared the signatures of Thomas Chasmer on his marriage certificate when he married Ann Primer in 1776 in Benenden, Thomas Chasmer as a witness on Robert Chasmer’s marriage to Elizabeth Gardiner in 1798 in Benenden, Thomas Chasmer as a witness to Sally Chasmer’s wedding to Robber Munn in 1809 in Benenden and Thomas Chasmer’s signature on his marriage to Ann Willis (nee Robertson) in 1810 in Bermondsey, Robert and Sally being children of Thomas and Ann Primer. I have been unsuccessful in uploaded a copy of all four signatures for you but my conclusion is that Thomas the father was a witness at the marriages of Robert and Sally and not their possible brother Thomas from Bermondsey. Not conclusive but sadly I think that Thomas of Bermondsey was not a witness to his possible two siblings' marriages. So as I say thank you all.