Help on birth correction

[patten-walsh]

Can any one have a go at the following correction.Unsure of the word after Hunter and also the rest of the name that begins Mc
Thanks

 

[Ma-dotcom]

McNiven & Suttskhil? or Suttchtiele?

 

[Sis]

McNiven & Suttskhib which makes no sense at all sorry

 

[Archie's Mum]

It so much looks as if it starts with an 'S'. But so different to the 'S' in Sheriff.

 

[patten-walsh]

Thanks so far for the suggestions and McNiven is probably right as it is a valid Scottish name.Looking through the suggestions for the other word it suddenly struck me that it could be..... substituted or substitute.

 

[Philippa]

Definitely substitute, but Mc??? I'm tempted by McNiven too but not 100% sure.

"In the fourth column of Entry 34 - in the Register Book of Births, for the year 1884 for Hunter substitute McN...."

 

[Archie's Mum]

That could make a lot of sense! There's just that stroke down before the 'b' though.

 

[Philippa]

stroke down before the 'b'? Sorry, can't see it, AM.

 

[Archie's Mum]

There is a vertical stroke before the 'b'. Could be nothing at all. Just an observation. Maybe I am seeing double.
Then again it could be an upward tail of the 'u'.

 

[Jellylegs]

Haven't a clue about the name, though I would say the first letter after Mc is N and I read the word after Hunter as substitute.

 

[Findem]

I go for Substitute and McNiven

 

[Ma-dotcom]

Sue is right about the 's', possibly an over-enthusiastic small 's'. As for the 'stoke before the 'b' maybe he just made a spelling error in his excitement?
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rather like my leaving out the 'r' in stroke.?

 

[Archie's Mum]

Stoke? That's very '60's' Wendy.

 

[Ma-dotcom]

I was here then, did I miss something?
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ah cigar or Cigarette butt?

 

[Philippa]

Ah, I see it. For what it's worth (very little, probably) my take on it is that he used an upward stroke plus a little squiggle to the right to make the 'u' and the 'b' connect easily in his "running writing" (a phrase from our kids' school days which I had rather hoped I'd forgotten). If you look carefully you can see the connecting "squiggle" under the long bar crossing all his 't's.

 

[Archie's Mum]

I was here then, did I miss something?
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ah cigar or Cigarette butt?

'Stoke(d) a word that came into my vocabulary in the 60's.
I am not too stoked about the circle of life event that we are about to attend this afternoon at Rookwood. (as an example)

 

[Archie's Mum]

Ah, I see it. For what it's worth (very little, probably) my take on it is that he used an upward stroke plus a little squiggle to the right to make the 'u' and the 'b' connect easily in his "running writing" (a phrase from our kids' school days which I had rather hoped I'd forgotten). If you look carefully you can see the connecting "squiggle" under the long bar crossing all his 't's.

And also what others above, including myself took as a double 't'.

 

[Sis]

By golly I see it too!

 

[AnnB]

For what it's worth, I agree with it reading "for Hunter substitute McNiven"

Ann

 

[patten-walsh]

Thanks all for substitute and McNiven.So the name of the mother named on the birth certificate as Eliza Hunter was changed to Eliza McNiven.Further down on the same correction document it says "in consequence of the Deposition dated 22nd October of Benjamin Carruthers informant of the birth in question".Benjamin Carruthers on the birth cert is given as guardian and Eliza was a servant.
It seems odd that when the child got married in 1909 his mother was then shown as Janet Hunter