Some thoughts please.

Findem

Findem

The Fearless One. Rest in Peace.
Can anyone suggest what this surname might be S...Ke?

On Free Reg I found the following marriage:-

9 Oct 1683 at High Easter John Monk to Hannah surname not shown.

On Family Search the same marriage gives bride's surname as S...Ke, I can't think of a five letter surname like that, in fact even if there were more or less letters I'd still be stumped.
 
Siske? Would really have to see the image or "have a clue" regarding surnames from the area. Sorry, not much help. :oops:
 
Thanks for the suggestions my mind was just blank trying to think of possibilities, I'll make a note of these and any more if any.
 
Hi,

I just tried FMP for Hannah Sach marriage 1683 and the Boyd's Index on there showed it , then I tried John Monk same details and he came up, so Hannah Sach it is. I didn't sign up for a subscription to FMP because from memory all I would get extra is the parish of the marriage which I already know is High Easter.

Thanks everyone for the help and suggestions.
 
Retrieved from Bookworms thread :
Just had a look for this Lady on Family search, a possible christening in:
Sach..[no first name]
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 2 June 1661
christening: 23 July 1661 LITTLE BADDOW,ESSEX,ENGLAND
Pts:- Thomas Sach + Elizabeth.
14.3 miles from High Easter.

Wendy
Thanks Wendy I'll make a note of that, John Monk and his wife Hannah Sach didn't name a son Thomas of course that doesn't necessarily rule this couple out, However they did name a daughter Elizabeth (my ancestor) and I've quite a number of ancestors who didn't name children after their parent's.

The mention of Little Baddow brought back a very pleasant memory, we (wife and I) lived in a cottage in Danbury, located a mile down a quiet country lane, quite often we walked the back lanes to Little Baddow with our son in his pram, in the Spring and Summer of course. Quite a pleasant walk, especially evening time with virtually no traffic to contend with, not that there was ever much on those country lanes, good times.
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A pretty spot findem, I wonder what drew you there other than healthy excersize & putting babe to sleep?
I wonder which marriage index is correct for this Man of yours?
 
Ma-dotcom said:
A pretty spot findem, I wonder what drew you there other than healthy excersize & putting babe to sleep?
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The first time was after I had come home from work and had an evening meal, it was a great evening so we though we'd go for a walk and decided to travel the back lanes. The direction in Riffhams Lane we took led to Little Baddow although we didn't know that until we saw a signpost. For the first half hour son was awake and seemed to be enjoying the bird song and birds lying overhead then off he went.

Ma-dotcom said:
I wonder which marriage index is correct for this Man of yours?
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I'm quite happy with Hannah being a Sach, Free Reg at least agreed with the first letter of the surname being S. I would imagine whoever researched High Easter PR's for Boyd's would have to be pretty good at deciphering handwriting and that person obviously thought it was Sach. I would at some stage like to view the image of the High Easter entry and see what I make of it and probably ask others to give their verdict. Is that what you meant in your query?
 
Findem said:
I would at some stage like to view the image of the High Easter entry and see what I make of it and probably ask others to give their verdict. Is that what you meant in your query?
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It is that Findem, would be nice to know the reality of it.
 
Sunday I did some searching on Ancestry and I've found what I'm pretty sure is Hannah Sach's baptism as Anna Sach 9 Oct 1663 at Stanford Rivers daughter of Jacob Sach.

Same site I found what is most likely her parent's marriage Jacob Sach to Margarett Abell 6 Oct 1651 at Stanford Rivers, all the above were in the "Select Essex Parish Registers" section of Ancestry.

The same search found Jacob Sach married Margrott Atol 6 Oct 1651at Stanford Rivers, I think I prefer Abell, Atol just doesn't look right.

Also found in the same search was a few more children of a Jacob Sach but these did not mention Stanford Rivers merely Essex, same film number though as the above, 571184.

So it looks as though when time permits I'll have check out Stanford Rivers PRs to ensure Anna didn't marry anyone at S R or be buried before 1683.

If all is confirmed, the Sach family will be my first Ancestors from that part of Essex.
 
Findem said:
Also found in the same search was a few more children of a Jacob Sach but these did not mention Stanford Rivers merely Essex, same film number though as the above, 571184.
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Found these children in Family Search and there it shows them as baptised in Stanford Rivers.

Now hit a snag, it seems Margaret Abell (married Jacob Sach 6 Oct 1651) is not Hannah Sach's mother, Margaret Sach wife of Jacob Sach was buried 29 Oct 1652 at Stanford Rivers. So now I need another marriage for Jacob sometime after the baptism of a daughter Mary 24 Oct 1652 and before the baptism of a daughter Elizabeth Sash? 26 Apr 1654. If only the registers in those days had the name of the child's mother attached to the entry, at least then I'd have a clue.
 
Might have known I was having a too easy time with the Sach line, just come to a crashing halt. I've just searched Free Reg, Family Search, Ancestry and FMP for a second marriage for Jacob Sach sometime between 1652 and 1654 the baptism of his second (known) child Elizabeth, I actually went further just in case. The only Jacob Sach marriage was a mention of a 1671 Boyd's Index marriage in Essex which is far too late. One of those b****r moments, I'll probably have to wait until someone transcribes another Essex parish for Free Reg. :eek: :D
 
Not sure how things were 'done' in Essex Findem, but how many times do we find, or read of others finding Baptisms several years after births? often in a job lot? Might it not be the case here?
 
Ma-dotcom said:
Might it not be the case here?
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Could be, although I do not put much faith in the 1671 marriage from Boyd's I haven't discounted it altogether and will be looking into it, all I know at present is that it is Jacob Sach 1671 Essex, if I can't find it in Family search etc then as a last resort I'll pay as you go on FMP to find where and with whom.

I'll not do anything about it today as I have a head full of cold, rather do it when my head is clearer :), see how I go tomorrow.
 
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