1921 Census

I am having yet another senior moment that I am sure will be answered as though it's most obvious.
Sorry about that.

I am looking to order a death certificate of Ernest Cloud who died according to Free BMD in 1898 (March) at Epsom. I can't find this on the GRO where I would like to order the certificate. Can anyone explain this please?
With thanks Elizabeth
 
Thank you. At least it was the certificate that I wanted. Poor mite died aged 5 of a diabetic coma(1898) Insulin didn't start being used until 1921, I wonder how they managed. I notice he died in Banstead, perhaps he was sent there as it was better for him than Lambeth where the family lived. Two years previously mum had been remanded for neglecting her child's health when another died age 5 months. It said he was 5lbs at death, yet had been 7lbs at birth. Mum was exonerated as there was no evidence against her. The Dr and nurse confirmed he was a poorly child. Looking after children wasn't easy it seems.
 
Can anyone give me an opinion on what would be a clerk cooper's . I really don't think it's an administrative thing.
Thank you
 
Looks to be a Cooper's Clerk to me. There's an apostrophe after the "r". I have noticed that many of the occupations were written back to front: Shipping Clerk and Assurance Clerk being examples above it. :)

Just to add, that the CODOT for Clerk (Classification of Occupations and Directory of Occupational Titles) would have been 319 with a code after it denoting which type of Clerk. eg 319.02 was General Clerk, 319.60 was a clerk typist. Therefore, enumerators would follow the CODOT order of things.

Don't ask how I know such things...
 
I think what I was wondering, is what does 'clerk' mean because all these people cant be administrators and he had hardly any education.
 
I think what I was wondering, is what does 'clerk' mean because all these people cant be administrators and he had hardly any education.
Well, the CC that has been added later stands for Commercial Clerk.

What jobs is he recording as doing in other records?
 
I think what I was wondering, is what does 'clerk' mean because all these people cant be administrators and he had hardly any education.
Why can't they all be clerks? And why do you believe that he hardly had any education?

Some years ago I asked about education standards on a different site and was pointed to this helpful website:
Code:
www.victorianschool.co.uk/school history lessons.html

In 1900 the very poor, very working class 12-year-old I was interested in had attained Standard V, although most others in his class were at lower Standards. A year later he was working down the mines.
 
Why can't they all be clerks? And why do you believe that he hardly had any education?

Some years ago I asked about education standards on a different site and was pointed to this helpful website:
Code:
www.victorianschool.co.uk/school history lesdons.html

In 1900 the very poor, very working class 12-year-old I was interested in had attained Standard V, although most others in his class were at lower Standards. A year later he was working down the mines.
It's just curiosity with the term. I just imagined the family would not have a 'clerk' in the business. It was barely a business just another older brother who was the master cooper in 1901, then in 1911 this brother was then a clerk cooper.
In his case notes the younger one was reported to be dull and stupid. He reached standard 3 at the age of 13 and was said to show under development of his intellectual abilities. That's what got me wondering what the 'clerk' meant.
 
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